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  • Still In Love With You (Thin Lizzy Cover Collab) (p.2)
2013/02/27 08:45:02
Janet
I should keep this track on my DAW as a reference of a what an awesome mix is supposed to sound like.  I love everything about this...guitars, cool bass, great drums, mix, vocals....what's not to like?  Great job, both of you!  

Even though I'm no longer the favorite collab partner.    It's OK...I'll suck it up and take it like a man.    And only cry a day or two.  I promise.  


Mark deserves your praise and respect...and you guys sound amazing together.  Keep it up!  :) 
2013/02/27 09:55:47
vechung
Awesome! It has great space in the mix. Great vox and guitar solo.
2013/02/27 10:37:26
The Band19
I gave him a version (take one?) And he was like, yes, that is a nice "pretty sweet ballad?" I want the nasty 70s version? So after some scotch, push-ups, and a workout beating the heavy bag? This is what came out... It is mixed up hot as Mike pointed out? I think it sounds good though. But it could go either way? He could pull some pressure off the limiter for some, or leave it as is. I'm fine with it either way. I just wish he would have kept more of my baritone sax :-) 
2013/02/27 11:03:29
groveendroad
I've always loved Thin Lizzy, so you got me with that alone. I llike the emotion in your voice, good job!!!
 
 
Terry
2013/02/27 11:06:20
bobvila
Nice!
2013/02/27 15:20:24
markno999
Phil - Thanks for the listen and comment.  I enjoyed your recent collab very much as well.   Glad you liked the guitar tone, basically I am learning as I go and use lessons learned from previous mixes to dial in what I am looking for.   Thanks again.
 
Robby-Appreciate your high praise, your check is in the mail;)  In all seriousness, I attribute any mixing skills that I have developed to this Forum and all the great information that is shared within it.  In addition, it doesn't hurt to have a bit of OCD when dialing in this stuff.   And, I would further add three things, 1) competition - you hear the stuff produced on this forum by many of the many talented players and engineers it just naturally pushes you to the next level.  2)  Collaboration - I have noticed that someone else's interpretation of music will inspire me to make changes to how I might approach it.  That could be through a direct collaboration or simply observing others.   3) Training - even though I don't comment on every single song on the Forum due to time constraints (not retired yet) I do listen to many and read comments of others. Simply through osmosis that information is absorbed into your workflow. 
 
Shad - Thanks for your comment.  It was a super fun tune to work on.
 
James - Thanks for the listen.   I appreciate your comments.   Regarding the guitar recording process.    I switched to PodFarm 2.0  some time ago.   Though I use my RME FF800 as primary sound card, I bought the Line 6 UX2 which I use to record guitar parts due to it's convenience and zero latency features.    This cover was done with my '77 Les Paul.   The chain went Les Paul < Boss Compressor (modded) < Line 6 UX2.   I open Podfarm in Stand-Alone mode and pick a sound that I think is close to what I am looking for.   The Podfarm Mixer set-up for Channel A - Wet (what you hear) and Channel B - Dry (just the guitar signal).  In Sonar, I record both channels so I have flexibility to keep the wet version only, change entirely using the dry signal with a different amp/amp sim, effects, etc. or blending the wet signal with something else.   In the case of this song, all the guitar parts are blended with the original wet signal (Podfarm 70's Rhythm sound) and an additional amp sim on the dry channel.   For the Wet L and Wet R Rhytmn parts I used a preset in PodFarm called 70's Rhythm.   Though it is a dual-amp setting, I used Channel Tools to Sum L + R into a mono channel because I liked the blended overall sound.   In addition, I used a Podfarm pre-set in the left rhythm part called Purple Rain (the Prince song).  The right side rhythm blends in a Guitar Rig 5 preset call Hi-White Clean.   On the guitar channels, I am just using EQ and some slight compression with the ProChannel 1176 and the Cakewalk Tape Simulator using the Guitar Tape Default setting.     On the wet guitar channels, I am also using the Waves Kramer HLS plug just using the default Rhythm guitar setting.   The Reverb Bus is Reverberate with the stock Guitar Plate setting.  I EQ this reverb Bus - HiPass at 350 and LoPass at 10k.      The only other component is Delay Bus which is just the Sonitus Delay plug.    The lead guitars are three blended sounds, a Podfarm Marshall Lead pre-set and Guitar Rig 5 preset (80's solo) and another Guitar Rig 5 preset called (Hi-White Clean).   I just blend the together until I get the sound I am looking for.   Hopefully this answers your question.   I am doing this from memory as I am on lunch break at work but I think this is all correct.  Thanks
 
Grant - Thanks for the comment and listen.  Glad you liked it.
 
Mike - Thanks for the review.  It is a bit hot for a ballad.   I actually wasn't sure this was the final take so I didn't really pay that much attention to the limiter.    Or, maybe it was Robby's vocals;)
 
 
2013/02/27 15:35:42
jamesg1213
Absolutely top notch. I spent a lot of time listening to the 'Live and Dangerous' version of this song when it came out, and this is just about as close as you can get to the feel and power of that track. Just wonderful.
2013/02/27 15:45:22
The Maillard Reaction


Hi Mark,
 I really like the performance and the interpretation of the song... and I think it's a fantastic song.

 I wasn't speaking about an aesthetic opinion about how loud it seems... I am speaking of the 120+ digital overs that I can clearly hear in the mix. It should be super easy to fix without detracting from the over all effect.


all the best,
mike
2013/02/27 16:48:12
notnat
 Great cover... killer production and performances... it is a very hot mix... love your guitar tones... great soloing, in spite of a few notes bent a bit sharp... easy enough fix...
You guys are a great team... but what's with all the covers..? they sound awesome, but what can you do with 'em, once they're done..?
Why not focus those skills, and that energy into something original... something you can own, and sell..? 
2013/02/27 17:37:24
chuckebaby
wow this is awesome,what a great performance.
the guitar lead was just amazing,the melodic feel,the bends,i love the bends and the slight amount of delay on it.

the vocals are also really good man.
you have the perfect voice for this song,though ive never heard the original.
normaly long songs have the ability to lose my interest fast,this one kept me hanging through the whole song.

again im a big guitar and vocal man,but the vocals really stuck out here with me,the guitars too but the vocals had a certain feel about them.

you guys should work together more often,it really is a perfect combo.
(you two)

thanks for the listen,this one goes on my soundcloud rotation setlist.

I give it a 9 out of 10 starz.
only reason it wasnt a 10 was because i did find it was on the border of being too loud.
this can mess with the dynamic feel of a song,not saying this was the case here but still, a 9 in my book is above top notch.
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