Hello All,
     I've been trying to resolve some room issues and muddy mixes.  If you have a few minutes, could you kindly take a listen to this track the tracks on post#17 below and provide some feedback on the mix quality.  Not necessarily the tune itself but the mix.

Especially wondering how the kick and bass sound as well as overall mix bottom & highs.

Best,

UPDATE:  Please see this post (#17 below) for an update.  Thanks.

The mix sounds pretty good to me... you might want to hi-pass  filter the guitars just enough to clarify the bass & kick... also maybe try widening the rhythm guitar with Channel Tools...
the drums sound dry but that's ok if you're happy...
Very nice production so far...

The sound of the guitars is a bit brittle, and I think if you add a vocal there will be no room for it. When the lead comes in, you gotta move those guitars way off center.

On my good play back system it sounds full spectrum... lots of bass.

If I were mixing I might try for a bit fatter tone on the kick, but I'd clear out some room for it by trying to get more attack on the bass notes and then cutting some of the low few energy witha very soft lo-cut. That would make the kick more apparent without really turning it up. The bass almost sounds muddy... but I'm not saying change your mix... some people like that exact tone. I'm just saying how I'd treat the song.

I'd also ride the organ a bit towards louder, but I'd back off it's high frequency a bit so it doesn't compete with the guitar as much... I'd try to really use it as a pad and glue. There are places where the bass is on top of the organ and I'd try to gel them up into one vibe. Not every where. The places where you lose the organ seems spot on... it lets the bass figure pop out.


I really like the edgy guitar tones. They have a sort of aggressive mid freq character... that reminds me of what I hear in real life... I like that. I think I'd give them a little extra lo-cut as has been suggested and see if I could get them to sound a bit airier without adding any more aggressive bite.


Then I'd fold it all up in some light reverb. It sounds like a band playing in a room. I'd use reverb to reinforce that impression.

That's how I would try but I also think what you have done seems confident, strong, and fully realized so there's hardly a need.




all the best,
mike

@notnat:  thanks for listening and for the tips.

@jamesyoyo: thanks for listening and the critique.  When you say brittle, are you referring to too much high-end or too much distortion break up?   For the width, I've been having much trouble with the mixes translating too muddy and haven't played around with widening them yet, but you're absolute right.  I think I may rerecord them once I'm happy with my overall mix EQ.  Thanks again.


Best,

@mike_mccue: Thanks so much for listening and the tips.  I'm especially concerned about the low-end cause I had a null problem with my room and have been working frantically trying to resolve it.  I think part of the muddiness on the bass could be the DimensionD Chorus I have on it, along with it being just a synth bass (Machfive Jazz Bass Emu).  I'll take your tips though for when I throw replace it with live bass.  Also I think you're spot on with the organ.  A pad type effect is exactly what I was shooting for, still need a few more tweaks I guess.

Best,

Sounds good. The song have a good beat and chord progression and I supposed your are working on the melody. Nice guitar solo. To fix the brittleness maybe use an eq to tone down the high end or use a tube distortion. It sounds like you are using an FET distortion.

vechung


Sounds good. The song have a good beat and chord progression and I supposed your are working on the melody. Nice guitar solo. To fix the brittleness maybe use an eq to tone down the high end or use a tube distortion. It sounds like you are using an FET distortion.

Thanks for listening & commenting.  Very much appreciated.
I'm using a PodHD with a Treadplate for the left channel and one of the High Gain Line6's for the right channel with the drive at about 45% on each.  No other FX on the Pod other than a noise gate.  I've been kinda struggling to find a tone I really like on the pod or trying to create my own.  That brittleness has been driving me nuts, especially when it crackles louder than the stinking notes on the guitar.  I've got a 1176 on the track (post Pod), I wonder if maybe I'm compressing it too much giving too much life to the  crackle?
Best,

You have some compression issues. This is where you need to start I think. Listen carefully to the lead... its pumping quite a bit.This is usually a function of threshold. If you have compression on the master bus, then I would take it off for now. You have too much middle. I am not sure widening the the lead with CT is a good idea with this particular tone. It is already fuzzy. I would tighten it up and track a double, or I would move it off center and balance it with another instrument. The drums were somewhat lost in the mix. They were there, but the lead so dominated that I did not get an immediate sense of their energy. The mix as a whole is indeed a bit brittle and cold. You need to clean up the mids - 2k to 8k to warm up the tones.

im with chad on drums sound really good untill the lead comes in and then drowns it out a bit.
There are a few ways to combat that and all have been discussed so its no point in repeating them.

catchy tune though,listen to it twice.
Reverb..light reverb will also help livin this thing right up