This is really disturbing.

James, first off, I would like to apologize for the comment I made earlier. It was inappropriate, yet you managed to shake it off well.

James, I am going to ask you to not respond to this post, or respond to any further posts like the ones above. Continue reading.

Ladies and gentlemen. James has backed down at least twice now, only to be stirred up again needlessly. Unlike PistolPete, James does not spew venom in every post he makes, either in his own, or in any of yours without provocation.

His biggest crime is he is too noisy for some people here.

Yes, he is sensitive. Yes he is reactive. But that does not mean he deserves this.
 
Some of us here (I am looking at you Jameyoyo) can also be highly reactive, arrogant, condescending and harsh. I can name more than one occasion people have asked you to back off. I do not give a **** how good you are as an engineer, you are often an a-hole and are being one now.

As for "attention seeking behaviour", once again... let he is without sin, cast the first stone (I am looking at you Robby).

James is clearly not Bobby. James has actually produced some competent music. The same CANNOT be said of Bobby. They are nothing alike in personality. Bobby could barely speak English. James is actually pretty articulate.

This is not funny. It is ganging up on one person you do not like. If we want to form gangs, then I am on James side, because for all his faults, James has never been this ugly.

Thanks Shad , I never intended to go out on the war path and start shooting arrows at those who have trashed me many times before .
Somehow all this trashing and banging heads has gotten far out of control and it really needs to STOP !

In the past I remember saying something nice to James Yo Yo in one of his posted songs in posted and not one word of thanks !
Same with Robby , I guess some people can't change and give someone like me who has been trying hard to get along a break .
Its pretty hard to do any of that when those same people keep on pounding you hoping you will leave this forum .

I refuse to let them run me off for their own personal gain , I'm not
out to trash them or run them off and I'm certainly not trashing them .
I didn't start this they did when I posted a video or two and then information on a few different guitar I was interested in buying .
Now that my guitar  has be purchased and is shipped thats
over with , hell they even moved those posted threads to the Coffeehouse and guess what they trashed me there too !

Robby - James Yo Yo I'm really sorry we can't get along God knows I have tired to get along !
I'm done with all the back & forth trashing , I had a song I started a few weeks ago and thats what I will be doing working on that new song project .
I have spent over a month shopping for a electronic drums kit  , another two weeks trying to get used to playing this entry level kit and  all of last week shopping for a electric guitar so someday hopefully by next year I will be able to play some chords and scales well enough to add to some of my future song projects .

Many of you have played guitar whatever and recorded for well over ten or more years  .
I started six years ago or so from the ground up , hell I bought my very first computer back in 1999 after I sold my Yamaha electronic drum set and stop playing .
Some of you have been at it for many years before that , I feel like I have covered alot of ground in six years . When I started I set my goals for five years learning all this stuff and now I'm setting more goals for another five years before I can even hope to start making some money selling my music .
If I can learn how to play this guitar I purchased yesterday and play fairly decent , I will be on track .
Getting back into drumming will also make a big postive impact on my music , can I do it in five years I hope so as long as I can stay healthy where I don't have another heart attack like last year on Christmas day .

ALL ONE CAN DO IS TRY AND KEEP ON TRYING , FAILURE IS NOT AN OPTION WITH ME !

As I did make personally directed comments to a couple of members above, there is a possibility I might get banned. So if you do not see me for a while, you know what happened. Unlike other members I could mention (looks at Robby), I will respect the ban and use the time in limbo to reflect on the odd nature of Justice.

foxwolfen


TNF is for me, like PP is for Frank. A source of endless mirth and amusement. He is so easy to set off. However, James, you may want to go easy on THE NIGHT FOX!!!(tm)(C)(R). He may have another heart attack or some other odd personal body function malfunction. From the sounds of it, he is on his last legs and might drop any moment now, and we would not want to be responsible for his head exploding prematurely or something. I for one do not want to clean up THAT mess. Well.. actually.. thinking about it... if his head exploded... there would not actually BE much mess would there?

how you can write something like this and then call out other people like James yoyo is beyond me shad.
 
Thats not right at all.
 
james yoyo left a comment,much like the comments james yoyo leaves on my posts,telling me the things i need to do in order to better myself as a musician.
 
see once your part of the problem,you cant solve the problem.
your post above clearly states you have contributed to the problem.
 
i understand you want to keep the peace here and help james,honestly,i think thats very decent of you.
but you cant go throwing other people under your bus and backing over them.
 
whats that line about glass houses and throwing rocks?

I think enough is enough now. Even I got caught up in the whole thing and took a cheap shot. This is not like me at all, and to you James, I apologise for that.

We are here to make music and to learn and develop as musicians. 
I have learnt a lot over the last few years from some talented people who I respect and for which i will be eternally grateful. 
But watching the back and forth on here, that respect has eroded slightly.

We need to continue doing what we enjoy doing, and not this as it is not productive or helping anyone.

Mark.

jamesyoyo


Does it even make a difference? He/they have the same effect on the forum: sowing dissension among normally agreeable folks.

foxwolfen



Some of us here (I am looking at you Jameyoyo) can also be highly reactive, arrogant, condescending and harsh. I can name more than one occasion people have asked you to back off. I do not give a **** how good you are as an engineer, you are often an a-hole and are being one now.

Now, I think this response by Shad clearly exemplifies my above statement. 
 
For the record: James heard the same thing from me that he heard from several other people, I just sorta said it first. He flew off the handle at me and then AGREED with civility with everyone else making THE EXACT SAME POINT. He then proceeded to go into my thread and throw a stinkbomb at my tune. That is not cool. If you can't handle the escalation, THEN SIMPLY DON'T ESCALATE.

As for me often being an a-hole:

well, that is some fighting words, son. 

I give advice, or give compliments. That is it. I rarely slag a song; I may say I don't feel it, but I seriously cannot recall saying the song sucks, other than in honest reaction to hostile provocation. I also cannot honestly recall my being arrogant to anyone. I am from NY and we tell it like it is in these here parts. If certain folks react weirdly to straightforward criticism OF A FRIGGIN' SONG, it is their issue, not mine...we aren't judging the looks of our kids here, for heavens sake. It is a songs forum supposedly looking for help/advice or a pat on the back. Grown-ups take the good (the advice/adulation) with the supposed bad (how you might feel about how it is being delivered). It is not supposed to be an online group therapy session.

And to be perfectly clear: anyone who goes high-n-mighty defending the poor and innocent little Night Fox, tsk-tsking on what should or shouldn't be said on this thread/forum/internet after feeding the fire with their own firebombing comments...well, I don't take kindly to that brand of sophistry. It takes a special kind of nads to call me harsh while in the same sentence proceeding to call me an a-hole!

Anyhoo, I have had my say. Carry on.

Still ratting again JamesYoYo  trashing , slamming me , PLEASE give it a rest !!!

By the way I did say your song was OK but I did say I myself wouldn't buy it , I never said it SUCKS !

THE NIGHT FOX


Still ratting again JamesYoYo  trashing , slamming me , PLEASE give it a rest !!!

By the way I did say your song was OK but I did say I myself wouldn't buy it , I never said it SUCKS !

Nah, you just said "nice try", which is a wimpy way of saying it wasn't any good. Coming off your ridiculous and libelous actions on this thread, would anyone have any reason to think it wasn't what you were going for?

jamesyoyo

THE NIGHT FOX


Still ratting again JamesYoYo  trashing , slamming me , PLEASE give it a rest !!!

By the way I did say your song was OK but I did say I myself wouldn't buy it , I never said it SUCKS !

Nah, you just said "nice try", which is a wimpy way of saying it wasn't any good. Coming off your ridiculous and libelous actions on this thread, would anyone have any reason to think it wasn't what you were going for?
 
 
LOL NOW THATS funny HA ! HA ! I'm rollin over laughing my blank N blank OFF !

Chuck, its called a conscience. If you bothered to actually read my reply for content other than a talking point, you will notice I started with an apology. Yoyo... Fighting words? I suppose if I had any respect for you I might be concerned. I don't. I am not. You don't recall? No surprise there. And if you cannot figure out why your post was reacted to poorly, and the next one wasn't, that is no surprise either. James was right, you are a bully. Standing between you and James is me. Bully me big man. - edit, typed danny instead of chuck.