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2013/02/24 22:43:23
Janet
I love this!  I'm looking forward to how this develops and will hopefully learn something from it too.  

Be careful that lead guitar isn't ahead of the other instruments.  


Fantastic piece!  
2013/02/25 10:03:24
Danny Danzi
foxwolfen


Danny, you are judging my input based on assumptions derived only from the limited exposure you have had to my own music. Let us not get personal and attempt to ascribe differing philosophies to experience (as you are very wrong) or knowledge , or to nit pick over semantic use of words like fuzzy. Terry got the right idea, and that is all that matters.

Ok, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt on the above. But you can't blame me. I've never heard anything of this nature from you, hear how you have a limited budget and limited gear, so I don't know the extent of what you've done or what you're capable of. My apologies for that. What I do see is, you comment really tough to people, so I'll take the tough (sometimes arrogant) talk as "you're in the know." from here on out, ok?
 
Just so you know, the term "fuzzy" in a distorted guitar situation, IS something that is worth nit-picking. A driven guitar sound can be called many things. Fuzzy, driven, over-drive, distorted etc. If a comment like that is made to me in one of my songs, the first thing I question is "hmmm...did I use too much over-drive?" Followed by "hmmm...fuzzy....maybe I didn't low pass enough and some high end frequencies are passing through making it sound fuzzy and unclear?"
 
Thus why I questioned if you were familiar with instrumental rock music because if you were, I would think you would know the proper terminology to use or at least explain what fuzzy meant to you. "It needs to be very clean" goes against the grain of having a distorted guitar sound. If he wanted clean, he wouldn't have used a sound with distortion, right? It wasn't a dig at you, I was honestly asking a question because your answer made no sense to me in THIS situation. "That's not what I meant Danny!" Well what did you mean? See my point? Speaking of "clean"...
 
There's another word that can have various meanings. Not played "cleanly"? Is that what you meant? This isn't nit-picking, it's the way you have to analyze a tune with distortion. If those words mean something else to you, it helps if you explain what they mean to you so the OP has a clue on what you're trying to tell him. I like to think I have a bit of experience in this field...yet I have no idea what you were talking about. 
 
As you can see, it's important to explain things a bit better when there are so many different variables going on. The difference is, most times you choose brevity with a slightly sarcastic tone and opinion....I choose wordy explanations to where I try my best to make sure people know what my terminology means and no stone is left unturned. And I do this without attitude or bias while accepting someone that is 1960 sounding or 1990 sounding without making them feel they need to keep up with the times or I will annihilate their tune because I can and this is 2013. I'm still blown away everytime I see you post that "get with the times" comment. And you tell me I nit-pick? LOL! :) You didn't say that here, so I'll bite my tongue this time.
 
-Danny
2013/02/25 11:00:18
foxwolfen
Well, thank you for the feedback on my personality, Danny. I try to be as honest about what I hear and how a song makes me feel as I can. Sometimes it is perhaps too blunt.  
 
Yes, brevity is part of the equation. I do not have a great deal of free time in front of the PC. Unfortunately that means I might use words that I hope will be taken as I meant. It would seem I fail at that. I sincerely try not to be sarcastic or insulting to a person (unless they went there first). If it comes across that way, then I am genuinely sorry to those I have insulted. I will redouble my efforts to be sensitive.  
 
In my defence, the people I am hardest on are the people I most believe can succeed. Those who are just messing around to have fun usually don't get much feedback. But, I do err on the side of defaulting to the belief that people here are actually interested in succeeding with their music, which results in me stumbling into somebody "just having fun" unintentionally.  
 
The one thing I do is try to keep in mind that everything about what we do as creative people is subjective, and that there are no rules, except... growth. I really thought I had succeeded in communicating that.
 
As for my comments about those living in the past... I will keep them to myself after this, but I do not apologize for them. Nor do I apologize for trying to encourage others to step out of their self imposed box, or correct what I (subjectively) perceive as a bad habit, or loosen their grip on certain ideas, and so on. I do actually want people to succeed. But if I am not helping, well, then I shall remain silent. It is not my intent to discourage.
 
-edit - forgot I was in firefox, no content changes, just paragraph breaks.
2013/02/25 11:23:59
Danny Danzi
That's fine and I respect the above. Maybe it is me that needs to be a bit more silent...which I will try to do also. There are no laws/rules that state how someone should listen to something or comment. I just have always felt that sometimes that "now sound" isn't for everyone, so I try to accept what they deliver. If I was a record label A&R guy, that would be different. Then again, with the way this music business changes from day to day...no one really knows what will be acceptable next. If something is a done well, I just accept it for what it is instead of what I feel it shoudl/could be...that's just me though and I don't expect anyone else to feel that way. Don't change a thing man....do what you feel is best. I just take this stuff way too seriously.
2013/02/25 23:02:50
foxwolfen
Don't you dare. I am expendable, you are not.
2013/02/25 23:21:07
Rimshot
I liked this.  I keep seeing cowboys riding fast out in the desert.  Some kind of theme for a spacey western.  All good.  You were given good advice already.  I hear this as movie soundtrack material.  

Rimshot

2013/03/01 03:57:55
PJH
Hi Terry,

Had a listen and I tend to agree with Danny. I'd take the reverb off the bass and maybe cut back a bit of reverb on the drums as well. If you did that the drums might be pushed a bit further to the front of the mix.

I liked the melody and just felt that some of the punch was missing.

Cheers,

Peter.
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