sharke
In some lines of work you have to have instant communication to stay competitive. I get emails requesting quotes and if I don't answer within 5 minutes, they'll go with someone who contacted them straight away. I also get job requests through the Thumbtack website which allows 5 companies to respond to a quote request. I swear I have sometimes responded in 2 minutes and have been told "This person has already received 5 quotes."

I wish I could be more laid back about email and phone calls but these days I'd go out of business if I left my phone at home.

Just to be clear, I'm not pointing finger - it's where we've been lead to little by little collectively. I'm actually very grateful to be able to exist outside those boundaries. But I also know that it doesn't take much to be swept in - because I've been there for years too. It's a matter of financial survival. Sadly.
 
Sad that all those things which were designed to save us time only enslaved us to a point where many don't have a second to breath.

Rain

sharke
In some lines of work you have to have instant communication to stay competitive. I get emails requesting quotes and if I don't answer within 5 minutes, they'll go with someone who contacted them straight away. I also get job requests through the Thumbtack website which allows 5 companies to respond to a quote request. I swear I have sometimes responded in 2 minutes and have been told "This person has already received 5 quotes."

I wish I could be more laid back about email and phone calls but these days I'd go out of business if I left my phone at home.

Just to be clear, I'm not pointing finger - it's where we've been lead to little by little collectively. I'm actually very grateful to be able to exist outside those boundaries. But I also know that it doesn't take much to be swept in - because I've been there for years too. It's a matter of financial survival. Sadly.
 
Sad that all those things which were designed to save us time only enslaved us to a point where many don't have a second to breath.

You have to put your foot down in some way though. I used to answer emails and even take calls up until midnight but now I don't do anything after 7pm. If people complain then screw them. I've had clients email me at 1am and complain they didn't get a reply. They have no idea of boundaries. Last week I called a customer to ask her if she wanted to keep her weekend appointments. She sounded surprised and said that she'd already called the day before, at 6:30am. I told her no, I didn't get a call, I was 100% sure of it. She said yes, she called, but the guy sounded like he'd just woken up. Looked at my call history and sure enough there was a call at 6:30am which lasted 45 seconds. I have absolutely no recollection whatsoever of talking to her, lol!

If you own your own business, then yes, it is probably a part of business that you have to somewhat put up with. Like you said Sharke, I think you have to set boundaries.

jbow
Now I have an Apple Watch icon that I CANNOT delete! I have less than no interest in an Apple watch. I hope Apple does a huge face plant with this watch. IMO, people are going to be more distracted while driving if they wear one because it will be right there next to the steering wheel and I suspect it will take two hands to do things with it and it certainly will require the user to look at it.
Besides that it starts at 350.00 and goes up to 17,000.00 so the people, especially kids whose parents get them one will always feel inferior because there will always be those few parents who want their kid to have the best.
 
I'll have to search to see if I can get this AW icon OFF my phone, I do not want to look at it. It is like they put an AD on my phone desktop that I cannot remove. I know I don't have to open it but I still have to see it sitting there.
 
OK, rant over!
 

Agree with you.

But, try the pricing system in France, 699 € for the Apple watch - you USA people are lucky .......... As such !

Also, here's what to do. Create a folder called CR@P and drop,the icon in that folder. Then you don't have to look at it. Works for me for all dross from Apple i don't want to use.

I am tapping this on an iPad 2 - up to date with iOS 8.2 and so far no sign of said icon - incompatability perhaps (ouf) ?

Cheers.
Jerry

Edit : put in the price

No sign of it on my new old iPhone, despite the fact that it's running the latest OS. I guess they target only the newer devices.

iPad Air here, iOS8.2 and no sign of the dreaded phone app on this either. Yet....

And I've already got a junk folder for the apps I never use so I know where it's going should it ever appear.

One of the things I really don't like about the Apple iDevices is you can't just uninstall the stuff you don't want or need. Their computers aren't much better.

I was reading an article about it and the author went on to compare the app to a Trojan. That's when it hit me... 
 
Apple sell things that are designed to be part of an ecosystem and interact with each other. They provide the hardware, the OS and a set of applications designed to provide a uniform user experience from one device to another with each device being instantly recognizable as a member of that eco system, and ready to interact, by default...
 
This is what Apple advertise and sell. It's no secret. That's one of the advantages people like me get by choosing Apple. I mean, when's the last time anyone complained that iTunes came by default on their iPhone?
 
If Apple went on and decided to shift the focus to people who want to use their devices outside the environment, they'd screw w/ the one sacred paradigm that makes them what they are.
 
One might as well walk into a Burger King and complain that they don't sell Big Macs....
 
I do understand the frustration - I do experience my own share of it - and I don't blame Julien for stating his opinion in this context. Not for a second.
 
But those so-called journalists throwing fuel on the fire...

Gouged in Australia bring the new Apple Watch at an affordable $799 and up. Got to be kidding and it will barely run 24 hrs without a charge.
And yes, the watch app has turned up on my iPhone but not on my iPad.

My business line is forwarded to my iPhone but it is set to go on "Do Not Disturb" from 8:30 PM to 9:00 AM. My daughters, employees, wife, daughters, and grand daughters can ring through... everyone else can leave a message and I NEVER return a call from someone who does not leave a message. If I don't recognize the number I ALWAYS let the call go to voicemail. Then I use the voicemail as a "to do" list.
I now have a new folder named Crapple.. it has the stocks, music, watch, news stand, and all the other Apple APPS I don't want!! Great idea that!!
 
J

I took the advice a long time ago and didn't get an Apple product.