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2015/03/16 20:36:02
mudgel
I've been the non Apple route with Samsung and other android phones and pads but have to admit that Apple just gets it done. Even synching with Windows I find better with Apple than Android.
2015/03/16 21:19:40
jbow
mudgel
I've been the non Apple route with Samsung and other android phones and pads but have to admit that Apple just gets it done. Even synching with Windows I find better with Apple than Android.

Yes, I have to agree. No problems with the iPhone, it just works! There is just stuff I don't want on it and cannot seem to lose... but I can put it where I don't see it! The iPhone is a great product and I hope to get an iPad Air this year.. after I get a high end set of open (head) phones.
2015/03/16 21:43:42
michaelhanson
Totally agree, I've had them all and Apple just seems to work.
2015/03/16 22:21:46
sharke
iPhones are fantastic, I just wish that Apple/Google/Microsoft wouldn't make it such a pain to sync between their various ecosystems. While I like the idea of sticking to one of them for simplicity, it's just impossible sometimes - yet they all seem determined to make life as difficult as possible for people who cross boundaries. 
 
Case in point. I do all the scheduling/billing for my business with calendars. Part of the billing process requires a 3rd party app which exports all of the week's info from Google calendars in a format in which an app I wrote myself can use to create the invoices. However, Google calendars are ridiculously lame and lacking in basic features, especially when it comes to editing them. I much prefer to use Outlook for that. So there's an Outlook/Google sync tool. My phone's calendar syncs with Google, so I have a 3 way sync going on. Except the Outlook/Google sync tool is horribly problematic and has been for years. It frequently makes a mess of my calendars (e.g. I'll delete 5 appointments in Outlook but only 3 of them will sync to Google). I've been back and forth with Google support for months but they are absolutely useless and to be honest have no interest in fixing the problem. Why should they? It involves a competitor. 
 
I also have my business email going through Google Apps so I can use the Gmail interface. Up until last year, you could sync Gmail to your iPhone seamlessly via Exchange. But then Google decided to stop supporting Google Sync (which uses Microsoft's Active Sync). You can only get Gmail pushed to your iPhone using Exchange if you're a paid Google Apps customer, otherwise you can only do it via manual fetch (meaning emails aren't instant). Luckily, I'm a paid Google Apps customer. Only ever since I upgraded to iOS8, the Exchange sync is very sketchy. Sometimes I won't get emails for hours and then a whole bunch come at once. It's totally unacceptable. When I contacted Google about this, once again they had no interest in the problem and told me that I shouldn't use the native iPhone mail app, I should use the Gmail app instead. Except the Gmail app sucks in many ways.
 
I have no doubt that all of this is because Gmail/Apple/Microsoft want to encourage you to use their ecosystem, and only their ecosystem. If that's not an option for you, you have to put up with the various annoyances and problems which none of them are interested in fixing because they don't want to cooperate. I guess that in time, someone will come along and offer me exactly what I want without any of these BS problems, and I'll happily pay good money for it. Until then, it sucks. They all suck. 
2015/03/17 03:13:49
Rain
mudgel
I've been the non Apple route with Samsung and other android phones and pads but have to admit that Apple just gets it done. Even synching with Windows I find better with Apple than Android.



I don't know about their phones, but software-wise, our Samsung Smart TV is the worst electronic device I've ever owned - by far. 
 
I could live with the unbearably long Smart Hub launch time, I could even live with regular playback errors, and the odd bug here and there.
 
What I can no longer live with are the Samsung Apps updates. Seems every time I launch the Hub and try to access Netflix or Amazon, there's an update to install. 
 
You're hoping to sit in front of the screen with your dinner and catch up with a series but by the time you're done with your meal, the update is barely installed.
 
Worst - for the last month or two, I even get crucial update messages during playback. Meaning I have to quit playback, re-launch the app, wait for it to determine whether the update is actually there or the message was just BS.
 
I have my issues w/ Apple (ask me about Yosemite or the latest iOS upgrades). But I'll take that before anything else.
2015/03/17 10:34:06
jbow
Rain
mudgel
I've been the non Apple route with Samsung and other android phones and pads but have to admit that Apple just gets it done. Even synching with Windows I find better with Apple than Android.



I don't know about their phones, but software-wise, our Samsung Smart TV is the worst electronic device I've ever owned - by far. 
 
I could live with the unbearably long Smart Hub launch time, I could even live with regular playback errors, and the odd bug here and there.
 
What I can no longer live with are the Samsung Apps updates. Seems every time I launch the Hub and try to access Netflix or Amazon, there's an update to install. 
 
You're hoping to sit in front of the screen with your dinner and catch up with a series but by the time you're done with your meal, the update is barely installed.
 
Worst - for the last month or two, I even get crucial update messages during playback. Meaning I have to quit playback, re-launch the app, wait for it to determine whether the update is actually there or the message was just BS.
 
I have my issues w/ Apple (ask me about Yosemite or the latest iOS upgrades). But I'll take that before anything else.


Wow, thanks for the heads up. I've been thinking about getting a "smart TV" later this year... there has to be a cheaper way to have TV and internet than Comcast... but I will be sure to read reviews regarding this updating issue... that is the last thing I want.
 
J
2015/03/17 13:40:52
craigb
Doesn't sound so smart to me (and their phones rock!).
2015/03/17 16:01:28
Rain
craigb
Doesn't sound so smart to me (and their phones rock!).




The concept is nice, but the implementation leaves to be desired. We usually have one TV night during the week, on one of my wife's days off. Sometimes two if we're lazy. Updates became ridiculously frequent in recent months. Seems every week there at least one. Plus the bogus messages.
 
Where Samsung itself is to blame I'm not always sure. But things sure seem to have gotten worst since the last big Hub update.
 
Amazon for exemple gives update messages almost systematically if I pause playback for a few minutes. I have to quit and restart the App - no update required. Other times, it'll simply freeze, and the only thing left to do is to shut down the TV and restart. That means waiting for it to access the hub after the restart, launching the app and waiting for that to load, navigating to whatever it is that you were watching and finally, resuming playback.
 
Netflix is buggy as heck. Actually, the last major update made navigating a nightmare. It also seems to have removed previews. And Hulu+ will interrupt playback/skip to end at least once every show.
 
Overall, the experience is just very disappointing. 
 
2015/03/17 22:33:02
57Gregy
Several times a wssk, DISH wants to do an update about 1:20 am. I'm usually up at that time with the box on, and sometimes recording something while watching another show.
They should be smart enough to know that and wait until the thing is shut off.
2015/03/19 20:51:13
jbow
 
when's the last time anyone complained that iTunes came by default on their iPhone?
 
How about now. I hate iTunes. I keep NO music on my iPhone because if I do, every time I use my auto stereo's USB to charge my phone it tries to play my music, it goes straight to iPOD mode. Not to mention all the space songs take up on a phone... but mostly I don't like it deciding that I want to play music from my phone every time I just want to charge it. I hate having to use iTunes for anything. I use Bluetooth and Spotify for music or I listen to the radio. I want my phone to ONLY do what I decide I want it to do, when I want it to do it.
 
I downloaded the Pandora APP and had to delete it because my stereo is Pandora ready and it also tries to use Pandora no matter what... I can't stand that.
 
J
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