• Coffee House
  • Carl Plamer, Wishbone Ash and The Strawbs (p.2)
2015/02/10 11:01:11
Bristol_Jonesey
Glyn Barnes
jamesg1213
That should be good! Lots to enjoy there. Seems a shame that Andy Powell and Martin Turner can't reunite in Wishbone Ash. Powell still has rights to the name I believe. One of my favourite bands still.


Torquay's Finest! I doubt if that will happen any time soon, looks like the legal battles were quite bitter. I remember Turner's brother played bass in the resident band in a Torquay night club we used to frequent at the time of Argus. Aparently he had left WBA as he did not want to give up his day job.
Strawbs are the "Acoustic Strawbs" incarnation with Cousins, Lambert and Cronk. Shame they could not get Wakeman or Tony Hooper to sit in!
 
I have not seen the line up for Carl Palmers current band.
 
 

 
I never knew he played for West Bromwich  Albion 
 
I'll get me coat
 
2015/02/10 11:54:49
Glyn Barnes
Bristol_Jonesey
 
 
I never knew he played for West Bromwich  Albion 
 
I'll get me coat
 

😀
2015/03/05 14:19:27
Glyn Barnes
Well, it was last night and I really enjoyed it!
 
Strawbs were on first as an acoustic trio of Cousins, Cronk and Lambert. Chas Cronk was impressive on acoustic Bass, 12 String and bass (or more correctly synth) pedals. The pedals expanded the sound pallet considerably and even songs like “Ghosts” worked in the acoustic environment. Lamberts lead playing was excellent, only occasionally did you miss it being an electric guitar. Dave Cousin’s voice is this beginning to show signs of his age, but it was still an impressive performance.
 
Carl Palmer answered the question “how do you do ELP without Emerson and Lake” by choosing to do an instrumental set without a keyboard player. Instead we had a guitarist and a bass player with a six string bass and chapman stick and the focus was on the drumming. It worked; The Set included “Howdown”, “Tarkus”, “Jerusalem” and “Karn Evil 9”. Only on “Fanfare for the Common” man were recorded synths used.  Carl looked positively youthful and played superbly!
 
In contrast to Carl’s youthful looks Martin Turner is more in the Keith Richards / Steve Tyler school of ageing rock star.  He is an excellent frontman his bass playing and vocals were very good. Of course on 25% of the original Wishbone Ash but Ray Hatfield and Danny Wilson handled the twin guitar roles admirably.
2015/03/05 14:33:30
jamesg1213
Very cool Glyn. Palmer obviously takes good care of himself. Did WA play The King Will Come? Love that.
2015/03/05 14:42:37
Glyn Barnes
jamesg1213
 Did WA play The King Will Come? Love that.



Yes, and also from Argus "Throw Down the Sword" and "Blowing Free". I beleive Martin wrote most of the lyrics on Argus. He is also fit for his 68 years, he just has that aging rock star look.
2015/03/08 15:44:23
jbow
They should call it Wishbone Hash! That's a band I'd like to see but I don't know how much they are like they were in the Vas Dis days... there is a live version of them doing that on YT that is incredible. I don't know... it might be like seeing the Eagles without Don Felder and IMO, they aren't The Eagles without Felder. Felder is touring with The Doobie Brothers now, I may have missed it here, I forgot about it.
Thanks, I'll check it out.
 
2015/03/08 17:22:37
Glyn Barnes
jbow
They should call it Wishbone Hash! That's a band I'd like to see but I don't know how much they are like they were in the Vas Dis days...
 


Its a good question, how many members of the original band do you need before you are no longer a tribute act? This band was actually billed as Martin Turner Plays Wishbone Ash for legal reasons. It was probably a fair billing too.
I would have loved to have seen Andy Powell, Ted Turner and Steve Upton up there but that was not going to happen. The band however was very competent, the set centred on material from Argus, but did include some new songs and "Jail Bait" from Pligrimage, the album that included "Vas Dis".
 
Carl Palmer's approch was intresting, by eliminating keyboards he removed any chance direct comparisons with Keith Emerson would get in the way.
 
The Strawbs were the closest to an original line up even as an acoustic trio. Cousins, Lambert and Cronk were in the Hero and Heroine, Ghosts and Nomadness lineup. Cousins has beenin very line up and Lambert on least three other of the 1970's albums.
 
 
2015/03/09 11:40:06
jbow
They should call this the WASP tour.
2015/03/09 11:47:38
jbow
I'd like to see Greg Lake but in more of an early King Crimson context. At least not in a ELP context. I always liked I Talk To The Wind. I like Lucky Man too, I assume it is a Lake song but I really don't know. I lost interest after Tarkus.
I wonder if there is any truth to the old rumor that ELP originally was to be HELP, but Jimi died. It would have been an ODD fit.
2015/03/09 13:28:03
Glyn Barnes
Lucky Man was a song Lake wrote while he was still at school. It was recorded when they were short of a track for the first ELP album. Apparently Emerson was not keen and went to the pub. When he returned and heard what had been done he changed his mind and added the Moog solo.

I doubt there is anything in the HELP story, stranger things have happened but it seems very unlikely.
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