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  • What software are you using to make support/demo videos? (p.2)
2015/05/31 09:27:53
sven450
The free Hypercam 2 works fine.  Captures sonar screen and sound.  I made 3-4 tutorials for a friend, and I had no issues at all.
http://download.cnet.com/...-13633_4-10004511.html
2015/05/31 10:22:28
maximumpower
For the person I was trying to help earlier, I ended up using SnagIt (trial). I think the problem I was having with all the tools was that I need to route the output (going to my speakers/headphone) back to the input so it could be captured.
 
I ended up making the video, imported it back in to Sonar and added another audio track for the annotation. This was a bit awkward as I had to remember what I was doing and I did not allow enough time to explain what I was doing.
 
Having the ability to record the annotation track at the same time as doing the video would have made it flow better.
 
Using the VoiceMeeter software, I think I would need Banana to record the annotation track separately as I going through Sonar to demo, it is not in record the entire time. Then after the annotation track was done, I would need to import it along with the video capture and then align it time wise?
 
I am also going to check out Hypercam 2.
 
Thanks
2015/05/31 12:12:59
ShellstaX
I'm not 100% sure what you mean by annotation track - assuming the commentary audio (narration(?)) - live from an incoming mic(?)
 
VoiceMeeter will let you do it all at once live - commentary, recording to sonar, audio/synth playback (from live or pre-recorded MIDI). No need to take a second pass to line things up. I use Banana but think you could also use base Voicemeeter. This is because you can pass all the audio elements to the 'B' channel/device. You don't need the recording from Voicemeeter for the purposes of what you are after. (However, if you wanted you could probably record it to either VM or Sonar at the same time regardless). They are donationware so fully featured at no cost - trusting that you'll see the benefits and donate.
 
I believe HyperCam2 is no different than the others - you won't get the processed/wet audio from Sonar on ASIO drivers(?)
 
I'd have thought annotation was more about putting text captions, speech bubbles etc on it. I imagine you can do that with the Youtube tools(?). Titles, credits etc I suggest are part of Video editting. I use HitFilm 2 Express - it's discontinued, at the Express Edition level, but pops up occassionally for free. I actually got it for 1 cent from Videoguys. They still have it ... but it's $5  - This was a $149 product.
2015/05/31 12:25:26
1ManMusic
For screen capture, I use Corel Video Studio Producer Ultimate.  I did it in v6, and just upgraded to v8, where I see some functions are easier than in v6.  I was using it to record the notes playing in Noteworthy Music Composer.  Although a little clumsy in v6, it was rather easy.  I think I had a test video in about 10 minutes.  Once you initiate the capture function, it is just a matter of clicking the record button.
2015/05/31 13:24:35
maximumpower
ShellstaX
I'm not 100% sure what you mean by annotation track - assuming the commentary audio (narration(?)) - live from an incoming mic(?)
 
VoiceMeeter will let you do it all at once live - commentary, recording to sonar, audio/synth playback (from live or pre-recorded MIDI). No need to take a second pass to line things up. I use Banana but think you could also use base Voicemeeter. This is because you can pass all the audio elements to the 'B' channel/device. You don't need the recording from Voicemeeter for the purposes of what you are after. (However, if you wanted you could probably record it to either VM or Sonar at the same time regardless). They are donationware so fully featured at no cost - trusting that you'll see the benefits and donate.
 
I believe HyperCam2 is no different than the others - you won't get the processed/wet audio from Sonar on ASIO drivers(?)
 
I'd have thought annotation was more about putting text captions, speech bubbles etc on it. I imagine you can do that with the Youtube tools(?). Titles, credits etc I suggest are part of Video editting. I use HitFilm 2 Express - it's discontinued, at the Express Edition level, but pops up occassionally for free. I actually got it for 1 cent from Videoguys. They still have it ... but it's $5  - This was a $149 product.


Yes. You are correct. I meant commentary not annotation.
 
I will have to try Voicemeeter basic but since it doesn't say it records, I will have to route it to something that does. Banana seems like a better fit for me.
 
Thanks for the help!
2015/05/31 20:00:48
ShellstaX
maximumpower

I will have to try Voicemeeter basic but since it doesn't say it records, I will have to route it to something that does. Banana seems like a better fit for me.



I'd say the Banana recorder is more intended for recording podcasts and Skype/VOIP calls - but, of course, use it in any way it works for you.
 
Recognize for what you are after VoiceMeeter is acting as the Audio Device - you still need the Screen Recording software which ultimately records the audio (as well as the video).
 
I've referred to Screen Recorder software esp in the linked thread above - post 29.
2015/05/31 20:51:09
maximumpower
Sorry for being slow. ...and I do really appreciate your help. It sounds like Voicemeeter does virtually what my patch cable does on my interface.
 
If I attempt another video, I will give it a try. I think all will be clear to me when I actually use the software. :-)
 
Thanks!
2015/05/31 21:04:25
ShellstaX
maximumpower
It sounds like Voicemeeter does virtually what my patch cable does on my interface.

No probs ... and yes ... VM is emulating a hardware device / loopback cables. It sits on virtual cable tehcnologies. VB-Audio also offer these as individual tools according to needs. But VM/Banana wrap it all into one package and present it with the added features of a Virtual Mixer.
2015/06/01 10:02:04
sven450
One more plug for Hypercam.  It is exceptionally easy to use, records your screen and anything coming out of Sonar, whether it was prerecorded or is live monitored.  It is ideally suited for tutorials on DAWS.  I tried a bunch of free ones, and they all were a bit off and/or confusing. Hypercam just worked right off the bat.  
2015/06/01 11:27:17
ShellstaX
sven450
One more plug for Hypercam...


I don't enjoy the same results wit Hypercam alone Sven. When I have ASIO Behringer Audio Interface as configured to Sonar and as default Win8 Record and Playback Devices ... Hypercam does not give me the option to Record Sound From my Sonar out / Behringer ASIO. 'Default Sound Recording Device' hears/records my microphone input, but neither live soft synth nor pre-recorded audio get picked up by Hypercam, despite me being able to hear them (and my mic with Input Echo=ON) in realtime.
 
I also have some issues with sound and recording out sync at 30fps when played to Win8 Media Player - 8 fps appears to be in sync. It seems to play OK in VLC at either fps.
 
And it triggers crash (of itself) on every close (64bit Win8).
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