2015/02/21 19:02:15
sharke
I have to put myself in the "don't mind the smell of pot" category, although when walking up the stairs of my East Village tenement I have to say the various aromas do induce an unhealthy craving...
2015/02/21 20:20:29
jbow
I remember the first time I smelled pot. It was 1966 and Mr. Policeman came to the auditorium and burned some little pellets of dried cow dung.. no 5hit!
 
Skunk is something different all together, it is a hybrid of sativa and indica and it REALLY has a strong smell. I was driving with someone in the back seat who had a small bit of skunk in a cellophane, in her pocketbook. It was so smelly I had to ask her to wrap it up better because man... it was smelling the car up.
These days they call it "Loud".
I liked to smoke (not skunk, never had it) it when I was younger, these days thinking about it beats the heck out of actually doing it.
 
I strongly support legalization of most drugs because I see no benefit to anyone from the "war on drugs". The people who want them still get them, crime goes up, the price goes up, no one who is not inclined to take recreational drugs is going to not do them because they are illegal. No one has a legitimate right to tell another person what plant they can or cannot grow or use... that is just absurd but I think I've said that before.. I am a bit passionate about it. I don't know how I would manage to live my life without the help of the __ government.
 
J
2015/02/21 20:45:56
Rain
Where and when I grew up in the late 80's, it was all haschisch. From memory, that stuff actually smells quite good, and I wouldn't mind if my neighbour smoked that stuff on his porch all day long.
 
I never saw or smelled pot until years later, when it became omnipresent. From what I've been told, that stuff was way more potent and had nothing to do with the stuff they smoked in the 60's and 70's. Being a musician and working with the people I worked with, it seemed to be everywhere. 
 
As for the rest, it's a personal choice - so long as I don't have to put up with the smell. I am not against legalization, but I don't have a dog in this fight. I would think that there are more urgent matters than getting stoned legally. But I'm a rather stiff bloke - I guess some would say that I'd benefit from a meeting with puff the magic dragon...
2015/02/21 20:51:00
batsbrew
HEROIN.
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horrible drug
2015/02/21 21:58:07
dubdisciple
I live in washington so weed is everywhere. I also used to dj raves and have worked in entertainment  so I have seen way too many drugs. I experimented in college but never got heavy into anything beyond weed.
2015/02/21 23:40:31
craigb
dubdisciple
I live in washington so weed is everywhere. I also used to dj raves and have worked in entertainment  so I have seen way too many drugs. I experimented in college but never got heavy into anything beyond weed.




I'm in a similar boat.  I also live in Washington and I used to do lighting for underground clubs in L.A. (what so-called "raves" used to be called before being named as such).  I'm a lot different than most up here since I've never smoked anything in my life.  However, if I were to see certain mushrooms again, I know I'd be tempted!  (It's probably been decades.)  Oh well.
2015/02/21 23:48:19
sharke
I did my fair share back in the early 90's and here and there up until about 2001 or so. In the early 90's the underground rave scene was new and exciting and quite beautiful (I know there will be hippies who scoff at the idea that it was comparable to the 60's, but for us it most certainly was). The drugs went hand in hand with the music - ecstasy + acid-house = bliss, especially within the atmosphere of the time. Great music, great people, nobody gave a damn what they looked like, social media hadn't created a generation of pretentious narcissists, and Islamic terrorists weren't filming themselves chopping heads off yet. 
 
So I had a great time, but what I learned was that you don't gain anything in the long run by taking drugs. Whatever high you get, you pay for it later. And the balance shifts for the worse over time - you don't get as high as before, and the comedowns become harder to handle. Ecstasy ends up dulling your brain's ability to feel good. Sunsets don't look so beautiful, sex ain't so fun any more, etc. So I'm glad I stopped when I did and I can't help wondering if I might have had just a great rave experience without drugs. Maybe, maybe not. Maybe my mind would be sharper now, maybe I'd feel more motivated than I do. Probably not worth worrying about but I think if I could flick a switch and not have taken them, I'd do it. I never did any of the really hard stuff though, so I'm thankful for that. 
2015/02/23 10:29:22
jbow
@ Rain: From what I've been told, that stuff was way more potent and had nothing to do with the stuff they smoked in the 60's and 70's. Being a musician and working with the people I worked with, it seemed to be everywhere. 
 
 
It was everywhere and so was everything else. In the early 70s I can remember times when there was several types of acid in town... we are talking about a small rural town far from any city. I have no idea what is out there today but I heard on the news this morning something about a bunch of people being hospitalized by something called Molly... I don't even want to know. I swear drugs were safer before the DEA.
I don't think any of it is "safe" or "good" but abusers and going to abuse and the stuff they manage to get these days, meth and "research chemicals", the new drugs designed to get around the laws are getting more and more dangerous, at least it seems like it. I don't think there is a good answer aside from doing the best you can to be a good parent or grand parent and not being afraid to talk about it to your kids and grand kids.
I smoked a lot of it back in the early 70s. For several years it was the whole point of the day. I sort of lost a few years but I came out of it but a while back I was thinking that I wanted to try it again.. all nostalgic and everything, remembering the fun, forgetting all the bad. Well, I managed to find some and it wasn't the TOTL stuff either.
Man... I took one big toke and one regular one. I seriously thought I might be dying for about 30 minutes. I was thinking, "I used to enjoy this"?? It scared the crap out of me. I guess if one was a regular user it wouldn't be like that but I'm not going there and I certainly don't want to do something that scares me. It was a dumb idea but we live and learn I guess.
The middle of the road stuff these days is like primo stuff from 40 years ago. None for me, thank you. I have to learn everything the hard way and usually more than once... but I eventually learn.
 
I do like to read about the 60s and 70s to learn more about the things that influenced me directly and indirectly, it helps me to understand the culture and to understand myself. Reading the book Orange Sunshine, the story of the Brotherhood of Eternal Love was an eye opener... as was the book about the History of L5D and the CIA etc, I don't remember the exact name. Those people and substances had huge impacts of everything. I was amazed at the things the BEL had a big influence on.. and Kesey too. It's an interesting subject but nothing I'd want to be involved in.. however, back in the 60s the media glamorized all of it so that much of the youth took an interest, where without that glamor, a lot of it wouldn't have happened and a lot of the reason the media was doing what it did was because of the BEL and people like Kesey. Leary was a good look at the darker side, he became a real mess. Strange days... I still get mixed up sometimes because of all the media and cultural stuff that went into my mind in the 60s but it wasn't good, it seemed to be, but it wasn't and it isn't, at least not for me.
 
 
J
2015/02/23 15:07:03
dubdisciple
Sharke, i was djing during that time in that region so i know excactly what you are talking about. The one thing i really enjoyed was how peaceful it was. I don't think i ever had to deal with even one fight at those events. I enjoyed the creativity of the places we held events. We once held one in a closed shopping mall. The place was still wired for power and the sound does not travel outside so we had main space an specialty music inside of various stores. I think one of my faves was right under a traffic bridge. The highway traffic totally masked the music from a distance so we were hiding in plain sight.
2015/02/23 16:18:46
webbs hill studio
jbow 
Skunk is something different all together, it is a hybrid of sativa and indica and it REALLY has a strong smell.

you know why its called skunk?
 
I was driving the back way to Gelsies on I17 in Jersey for a session when I ran over a skunk in my Malibu.
didn`t think much of it till I opened the garage next day and the smell was awesome!
FWIW- "Hudson County Skunk" was apparently named because of the prevalence of skunks in that beautiful valley.
I always wondered why there were crates of tomato juice and vinegar everywhere in the convenience stores-its in case you get sprayed because,believe me ,it takes months to get rid of,.
 
Personally,i think it`s sad and disturbing that they have upped the THC and virtually eliminated the CBN`s-replacing the natural anti-psychotics with extra potency.
all about the money  `spose but times are a changing and its good to know in the near future we will no longer be crinimals for using the  cannabis receptors God gave us .
in the studio-I`ll take a pothead over a twitcher anyday.
cheers
tony 
 
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