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  • "Waiting to Shine" - original blues rock (p.3)
2013/01/20 20:08:53
batsbrew
Sailor55

thanks for checking this one out!

zappa?!
i don't know about that...

but i sure listened to lots of zappa, especially liked the roxy, one size, apostrophe, all that stuff right up to about the 1st couple of vai-involved albums.

sure miss zappa
2013/01/21 10:18:03
batsbrew

noisy
thanks man! sleazy, YES, that's what i was going after.

greasy, or easy, would have worked just as well too!
heheh


 

razorwit
thanks for checking this one out, glad you liked  it.

the drums, are toontracks Superior Drummer.
so, they're real drums, with multiple microphones available, so each mix is unique depending on how your chose the dozens of close mic and room mic and bleed applications.
technically, they're samples, triggered by midi.
the snare, i wanted a bit heavy handed, so that's why there's not as much ghosting...
i wanted it more neanderthalish, so i didn't allow a lot of subtlety

the program is cool in that, you can choose the velocity of each set of 'beats' in advance....
if you pull back on the velocity control, those 'machine gun' fills start to sound more like well executed paradiddles instead of solid center of head strikes....

good ear.

2013/01/21 10:19:53
batsbrew

AT
thanks man.
the drums, i spent a lot of time working the compression settings of each drum, and i had them running into a LIMITER across the drum buss, so i could push different parts of the kit into the limiter to get them to POP more.
at least, that was the goal.

i experiment a lot between mixes, looking for 'magic forumlas'.
haven't found any yet!
:)

2013/01/21 10:25:02
batsbrew

daryl
i appreciate the words of encouragement.
thanks

i did mostly L-C-R mixing on this one.

but, there are always parts of the mix i end up sliding from hard right or left to somewhere inbetween that and center.

i can HEAR them better in those positions, though a lot of pros say that this is unnecessary..... pick a side and stay there!
LOL

it's easy to find separation putting guitar parts hard right and left, as long as they are balanced riff-wise, tone wise, more so than level wise, i've found....

i'm still trying to figure out whether or not i like most background vocals centered, or spread out randomly, or hard panned.


i listen to a lot of old Rundgren, and he'd take all of his backgrounds all the way over to one side, if he had a guitar or keyboard part that was doing something similar to the background vocals, and have that all the way over on the other side...
so that influenced mix decisions a lot, trying to find clarity with radical movement, but not DISTRACTING movement!

that's the judgement call i often miss, and don't realize till i walk away from a mix long enough to forget what i did, then listen to it basically from scratch, to decide if i like the decisions i made before.
if i hate it, i start over....
but if it works, i'm done.

2013/01/21 12:29:56
daryl1968
Great stuff batsbrew - guitars sound brilliant but I wouldn't expect anything less :)
2013/01/22 12:45:55
batsbrew
daryl1968


thanks a lot for listening and commenting....
glad you enjoyed this one
2013/01/22 12:55:34
Doosie
Great tune.  The only thing I can add is that I really loved the interaction between the guitar and vocals in the chorus. 
2013/01/23 13:02:19
batsbrew
doosie

thanks brian.....

that chorus/guitar call and response stuff, it just HAD to be there!

LOL

i mean, i actually heard those guitar parts in my head as i was singing the chorus tracks before i tracked the solo guitar.
it was integral.

2013/01/23 15:33:39
Wookiee
As observed by Lynn there is no lack of shining talent displayed here.

Nice one Bat the mix sounds nice and solid here, great tone and I do like wah used that way.

Thanks for shining your light here
2013/01/23 16:17:35
notnat
Very cool Bats... I do love a shuffle...
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