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2013/01/22 20:27:17
Cactus Music
Yes the player started automaticly so I listened to the wrong song first. No biggy it was good too. Like your style, great guitar parts,, 
My production comments: 
Bass is too subdued. 
Drums are boring, All the rolls are the same pattern, mix it up a little or kill some of the rolls, they aren't that needed, but to me they become distracting. I couldn't even hear the high hats on my home stereo that I use so not sure what others where hearing. 
Yes punch up a bit of piano.
Song becomes monotonous after second chorus, Shorten? or move guitar solo up... middle 8? ( bridge in US) 
Like the lyrics, guitar and solo  and style a lot!  good song writing.. 
2013/01/22 22:01:14
darylcrowley
Took some advice here, at least what I understood.  Also cut back on harmonies per Frank,

Cleaned up the high hats I hope..

John, Lynn  Thank you!

Cactus - Thanks for the insightful crit.  As most will attest here, drums are my weak point, I don't play and I've never studied them, although I worked with a number of good drummers, I just never really understood the methodology.  I recently installed Superior Drummer and I'm really in the learning stages.   The bass suffers from the lack of a good preamp, which I will be adding sometime this spring.  Right now my bass amp is my guitar amp through my homebuilt(but increadibly effective iso box, at least very effective for guitar)  I'm looking for a quality mic pre that will also work as a DI for my bass and I have a pretty good budget.  I appreciate the comments on the song and lyrics... songwriting is probably my best forte, but I love the guitar.
2013/01/23 07:24:17
jamesg1213
Very nice song Daryl, impeccably played, sung and produced as always. It's actually getting hard to know what to say about your songs, because you never put a foot wrong. I just enjoy 'em.
2013/01/23 08:13:01
Guitarpima
Nice song! I love the sound of your vox. It could be blended better but they're outstanding.

I agree about the hi-hat. IMO, there are times where it should do that click, click, click, open, click rather than the 16th thing.

Excellent!
2013/01/23 08:26:22
The Maillard Reaction


I love where you placed the vocals in this mix... it's a surprising treat.

The whole mix sounds so nice. The piano floating just below everything else seems just right.

I wasn't sure what the guitar solo was for until you hit the modulation... I wonder if there's a tasty lick yet to be discovered?

Thanks for sharing,
mike
2013/01/23 20:08:46
Cactus Music
Drums are a tricky one for us guitar playing song writers. I think what happens to a lot of fledgling composer/ producer/engineers is they do try and wear to many hats. The drums was probably something you might not have even paid much attention to while playing or listening to music.  Most people only listen to the "song".

 I have picked apart the pieces since I don't know when.  I will listen to a whole album and focus on the drums or the bass part. I'm just weird I guess. 

As a sound engineer when mixing a live band, you need to listen and mix to hear each instrument clearly. 
You need to know what they should sound like. So I have tried to learn to play every instrument just to gain the knowledge to do this properly. I will never call myself a drummer or a keyboard player, but I could survive a night playing those instruments at a basic level in the right situation. 
As a single performer I needed drums in my accompany tracks.  I had to learn the drum parts for all the songs I was playing.  This is really the ticket. You'll soon get the idea of how even a simple drum part can work. 
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Those auto fills are a dead givaway that the drums are not real. No drummer would play a rolls like that. 
 Just put on a tune that is in the style your working on and listen to the drums.  
That's why I just bought a set of digital drums so I can (hopefully)  improve the realism of my drum parts. I find it tricky to play fills on a keyboard controller or worse yet manually enter them.  I haven't the patients to dig through libraries of 1,000 of pre done loops. I have always played my drums with live input from keyboard or mixed in real drum parts of my kit. Or better yet had a real drummer play.   
Anyways,  keep it up your doing great! 




2013/01/24 08:47:03
darylcrowley
Mike - Thank you.  The guitar solo is for.... guitar players ;>)

Catus - Thank you.  You are spot on.  I've never thought a lot about the mechanics of drums, there were always drummers I liked, or didn't like, and a great many I never thought of.  This was the folly of my youth and the weakest link in my self-taught music education.  I remember many rehersals where during breaks, the drummer would pick up a guitar and noodle on it.  I would always ask.."How does it feel to play a real musical instrument?"  To late I realized my mistake.

I'm retiring this spring and one of my goals over the next year is to spend a lot of time trying to understand and improve my drum tracks.  This will be a tall order since I have had zero experience on drums.  I'm also on the lookout for a drummer to partner with while I'm also trying to put together a stage/concert band (I did many years in nightclubs and I have no desire to get back into that).  I have started to listen more intently to drum tracks (alas far later in life than I should have) but I have a hard time following what they are doing just by listening to it.  I see now that EVERY musician should probably start at a very young age on the drums, then piano to facilliate learning to read and understanding theory, THEN decide what instrument they want to play.

What am grateful for is that I can still play at all, I still have the desire, and I enjoy playing and singing more than ever.  I've talked to very old and very acomplished guitar players and almost to a man they say they love it more with each passing year, because they continue to get better.  This is in sharp contrast to where everything else in life becomes harder as you get older.  I'm hopeful the guitar is my passport to eternal youth! 

Daryl
2013/01/24 11:01:13
foxwolfen
Daryl, I think this is my favorite tune of yours. I love the progressions, the lyrics, the style. I am not usually into country/western/folk style music, but this is so good I can hear it as alt rock, or latin dance, or just about anything with only minor changes to the beat... it just has so many good elements that are not "stuck" in only one genre. I admire that.
2013/01/24 13:23:25
darylcrowley
Shad - Thanks man.  I played in country rock and Eagles type cover bands for so many years that I can't keep the country influence out of anything I do.  But by the same token, I don't try to add it in either, in fact I try to keep the influence at bay (although I'm not sure why.)  So my rock, blues, or jazz, (or country), has an element of country that I can't seem to filter out. 

It is my curse that most all of my music contains all of my influences wrapped up in everything I do, all at once.  I think this is because I have never tried to emulate or copy any bands or guitarists.  I have very eclectic tastes in music and when I write, I just write what comes out, as a consequence you can hear a little of all my influences.  Not being genre-specific is the kiss-of-death in commercial music, but I've never been a fan of comercial music, although I like much of it, so I don't even know how to produce something "commercial".  But since I'm not a young man working the circuits making a living with music anymore, I'm not interested in being commercial.  And since I have money now and retirement investments, I'm also no longer a "starving artist".  Although at the height of my touring days, we were making very good money, or course we were playing commercial music in nightclubs 5 - 7 nights a week.

But that's the long-winded explanation of "the man without a genre" 

Daryl
2013/01/25 04:02:51
kennywtelejazz
Very good song Daryl , 


your music  has grown in leaps and bounds since I first heard you here on this forum


it must be that secret ingredient called HARD WORK ...


you Sir,  are a very strong power of example of what is possible musically 


Kenny
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