2013/01/22 07:20:46
Doosie
Hey All,
 
Longtime lurker here but I have never posted before.  I just got back into recording a few years ago after a (very) long hiatus.  I mainly just work with friends and help them flesh out their ideas and try to give them a good product to display. 
I wanted to run a song by you all and see what kind of critiques I get.  I have tough skin so fire away on the mix, performance, anything.  Just trying to make each song better than the last.
 
https://soundcloud.com/smallspacessound/ballenas 
 
(edited for carelessness - Thank you jamesg!!)
 

-Thank you
Brian
soundcloud.com/smallspacessound
2013/01/22 08:21:13
jamesg1213
Hi Brian, your link doesn't work, I think it's the '#'..try this; https://soundcloud.com/smallspacessound/ballenas
2013/01/22 08:39:03
Doosie
jamesg1213


Hi Brian, your link doesn't work, I think it's the '#'..try this; https://soundcloud.com/smallspacessound/ballenas


Thank you for the heads up. *fixed* (i hope)...
2013/01/22 09:02:08
Beagle
Hi Brian,
still a lot of work left do to on mixing, IMO.  the electric, bass & drums are very muddy and "noisy" and some are very "distant" in the room with lots of room sound  - probably the way you recorded them.  you need to clean up the source.

great talent, keep at it
2013/01/22 09:36:23
Doosie
Beagle


Hi Brian,
still a lot of work left do to on mixing, IMO.  the electric, bass & drums are very muddy and "noisy" and some are very "distant" in the room with lots of room sound  - probably the way you recorded them.  you need to clean up the source.

great talent, keep at it

Thank you for the take Beagle. Much obliged.  I can't argue with the critique, specifically on the guitars and, upon listening for it, mud in the vocals.  Guitars are not my instrument and this is the first time I have ever produced a track with multiple heavy guitars like this - I mostly work with acoustic songwriters.  Ever still a work in progress.
In reference to the bass and drums, I don't disagree but I find it interesting.  The drums are all ITB.  Percussion is my primary instrument with bass second.  I don't have the "room" and physical resources to properly record a kit so I choose to program them (as I would realistically play them).  So this is interesting as it seems that I have gone too far trying to "liven" them up on the production end.  Hmm... something to think about... 
 
Again, Thank you for taking the time!
-b
2013/01/22 09:38:39
Beagle
I should have worded that better and actually it's wrong the way I said it.  the drums were muddy in the mix, but they did not have the same "room" problems the electric guitars did, especially the lead guitar.
2013/01/22 12:01:16
Doosie
Any further comments on this track?  I am sitting at home sick in bed so I decided to give posting a go and I am (very bored and) very curious of others opinions of my work.  Good, bad or ugly - I would appreciate any feedback that anyone would be willing to give.  I am just trying to see how I can improve with each project. 

Thank you for your time!
2013/01/22 12:12:50
jamesg1213
I liked it. To me there's a nice 'live' vibe to this song, a rawness which perhaps doesn't need to much polishing. I would maybe do some hi-passing on the elec guitars and get the vocals to ride above the heavy sections. The fake 'bagpipe' sound is a bit odd, I might lose that..
2013/01/22 12:47:37
Doosie
jamesg1213


I liked it. To me there's a nice 'live' vibe to this song, a rawness which perhaps doesn't need to much polishing. I would maybe do some hi-passing on the elec guitars and get the vocals to ride above the heavy sections. The fake 'bagpipe' sound is a bit odd, I might lose that..

Thank you for taking the time to give it a listen jamesg.  Getting the vocals to ride above is a headroom problem I created but I may have to look at what I can do with the eq to "sculpt" or something... The bagpipe is a dimpro sample from the HD strings collection - tubed violin, i think - I pulled that melody line on a whim from the original (which is VERY different) and my collaborator went nuts (in a good way) when I was searching around for how to voice it.  Was more his pick but I like it and have grown accustomed to hearing it (but, I do think it is odd too...).
 
Appreciate it!
2013/01/22 12:55:28
eko
As I havent heard the originaltrack its hard to comment on comparision but I think as a live take this is very good. If it supposed to be a studio track it needs more attention. 
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