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2015/02/10 16:10:34
backwoods
Last time he did it- he apologized eventually- but it seems he forgot about it and now he's doing it again. The newspapers are saying Beck has a had a sales rush- maybe because of award, maybe because of attention gained from Kayne.
 
Those shows are so goofy I enjoy something that goes awry. 
2015/02/10 16:14:48
Rain
Beepster
 
lol... shows what I know. I didn't even know hter was a book.
 
I just liked Kiss Alive II and used to listen to it nightly when I was kid (like 12 yo) as I wandered off to dreamland.
 
Ace was my true hero of the band back then too. I was also massively into to Twisted Sister and Eddie "Fingers" Ojeda was the cat that inspired me to harass my parents into buying me an electric guitar (much to their chagrin).
 
So yeah, after everything I've done over the years musically (punk, thrash, harcore, folk, prog, alterna weirdness, etc) it's pretty darn funny looking back to think it was friggen' Eddie Ojeda that lit the fuse.
 
I wanna ROCK!
 
*dun dada dundun dun dada dundun and so on and so forth*




Me I guess I regressed :) Randy Rhoads made me want to play electric guitar and from there I went mostly to simplistic players like Ace Frehley.
 
I'd never really heard anything outside my parents' record collection (mostly Elvis Presley as far as I recall) before I was 11, so I figured things out backwards, starting with Ozzy and Van Halen and moving back from there. By the time I got into KISS, Frehley was (unofficially) no longer playing with them and they were about to remove the make up.
 
I guess I figured out early on that I'd be better squeezing and bending that one note like Ace than trying to play even just half as fast as Malmsteen, MacAlpine and all those guys.
2015/02/10 16:19:13
dubdisciple
I don't  watch award shows either. I used to date a singer (won't name drop) who asked for my help to vote for grammys because she only listened to jazz. She had never heard any of the people  nominated and pretty much voting based on "what critics said", who she had actually heard of and reccomendations from peers. When I discovered her process wewas more common than I thought  it explained a lot about the results when i saw the awards that year fall pretty much in line with her votes I stopped watching. Considering Beck's album sold poorly for an artist of hist stature, this incident is a blessing to him. Suddenly people who have not purchased his music in over a decade are singing his praises for the exact same music they ignored all through 2014. The power of hate is strong.
2015/02/10 16:25:04
Beepster
Heh. I had kind of the opposite experience. As soon as I got that hunk of wood in my hands then I hopped on the Rhoads train... and Hammett, Friedman, Slash, Bettencourt, Satch, Vai, SRV, Frusciante, etc...
 
After becoming a hackwad wannabe speed demon is when I regressed and got into Cobain, Cantrell, Zombie, Corgan and the various other slower speed nasty slingers.
 
Obviously I was easily influnced by MTV (well... MuchMusic as you know) back in those days but I was a cranky teenager so yanno... that's how it goes. Those styles stick stick with me though.
2015/02/10 16:33:05
sharke
dubdisciple
Mesh
Wookiee
jamesg1213
 
K West is still a tool though.


Can not think of what use this tool could be put use for though, it is a tough one.


Apparently, he's not the sharpest tool in the shed.


As dumb as him and his wife come off, I have to wonder if they have just brilliantly found a way to take advantage of society loving to hate people. Kind of like a pair of attention whoring savantes who have monetized saying stupid things. Kanye just realeased absolutely hideous shoes and all this extra publicity is not hurting.


To be fair though, whether it be his awful music or his awful shoes, he's cornering the pleb market, and plebs will gravitate to that stuff with or without the extra publicity.
2015/02/10 16:35:45
Rain
Beepster
Heh. I had kind of the opposite experience. As soon as I got that hunk of wood in my hands then I hopped on the Rhoads train... and Hammett, Friedman, Slash, Bettencourt, Satch, Vai, SRV, Frusciante, etc...
 
After becoming a hackwad wannabe speed demon is when I regressed and got into Cobain, Cantrell, Zombie, Corgan and the various other slower speed nasty slingers.
 
Obviously I was easily influnced by MTV (well... MuchMusic as you know) back in those days but I was a cranky teenager so yanno... that's how it goes. Those styles stick stick with me though.




I totally get that.
 
The funny thing is that, after a lifetime of panning that stuff, I decided that maybe I had more chances of improving my playing if I tried to learn from players whose style didn't come naturally to me. I'll never play like those guys, but every little that ads to my vocabulary and palette is good.
 
Rhoads prevailed throughout my life though - even if I went in a different direction, I still hear his influence in my own playing every now and then. Emotionally, he's still my favorite.
2015/02/10 16:44:16
SteveStrummerUK
 
To be honest, I'm not sure I ever really understood the Amy Whitehouse 'phenomenon'.
 
I've listened to a fair bit of her stuff and watched a few live performances on TV, and her 'slurring' vocal delivery always reminded me of a drunk woman performing a karaoke song, albeit in tune.
 
I don't quite get the 'tragic' artiste thing either, as far as I can see (although I'm happy to be corrected) she was just a junkie whose friends and family couldn't stop her using before the inevitable happened. That is 'tragic' for sure, but I'm not sure her tormented lifestyle provided any influence on her songwriting?
2015/02/10 16:44:40
Beepster
The lad knew what he was doing. That's for certain. Loved his tone. Loved his phrasing. It's that classical background combined with the heavy metal tone/sensibilites that really did it. Real shame he died so young.
 
I know I SHOULD like Wylde and he's a good guitar player but listening to any Ozzy stuff after Rhoads... well I just don't feel it. I mean I do in a way but it just isn't that pure, classic metal. Rhoads really defined that style I think.
2015/02/10 16:54:09
dubdisciple
It's  hard to say for sure what Amy's problem was because despite all the articles, none of us knew her. It's  possible her "tortured soul" influenced her songs, but who knows. Her songs did have a mostly dark vibe so it is certainly possible. It is equally possible that her label and marketing people sold the tragic junkie angle as a way to genrate buzz.  Labels are notoriius for trying to walk the line between using artist dysfucntion advantageously and outright enabling. Old Dirty Bastard's studio sessions were drunken, sometimes incoherent  rambling at times that RZA had to shape into an album in post. I hope Amy is at peace and other young artists see her tale as a wakeup call...but i doubt it.
2015/02/10 17:43:58
clintmartin
I posted a thread in this forum about Beck's album when it came out. (I can't find the thread now) I don't remember anyone responding to it, but it is a really nice album. I love the production and the reverb on the vocals is fantastic. Beck has deserved this little meaningless trophy several times now...Kanye is a disgrace to humanity.
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