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2015/02/10 21:46:37
Beepster
You ever think that maybe if you plodded on and just DID it maybe you'd suddenly wake up one day feeling pleasure again because you actually accomplished something related to your goal?
 
Of course you have because that is EXACTLY what I said the first time you popped in here with this crap. You rejected it and made up a pile of excuses and justifications.
 
You don't want to learn how to write music. You don't want to learn how to play an instrument of any kind. You are convinced you are an "epic" talent that the world is being denied but you refuse to take any actions to prove it and get angry and indignant at the fact noone is handing you awards and singing your praises.
 
It may seem like I'm being nasty but if you want it that badly DO IT! That's what every single other person on here has done. We PLAY and MAKE music whether we are geniuses or not because that's what we want to do... so we DO IT!!
 
 
2015/02/10 21:48:32
Beepster
bapu
So...... you're not going to make music until you get your full pleasure back.
 
But in the meantime you'll simply talk about how you can't make music because of you lack of full pleasure.
 
In psych 101 that would be called a circular pattern.
 
My work is done here.




This is the Choola Choola guy. I wish him luck with whatever he's got goin' on but he has no interest in anything anyone has to say. This is like the fifth handle I've seen him use.
2015/02/10 21:52:26
SonicFan
Beepster
You ever think that maybe if you plodded on and just DID it maybe you'd suddenly wake up one day feeling pleasure again because you actually accomplished something related to your goal?
 
Of course you have because that is EXACTLY what I said the first time you popped in here with this crap. You rejected it and made up a pile of excuses and justifications.
 
You don't want to learn how to write music. You don't want to learn how to play an instrument of any kind. You are convinced you are an "epic" talent that the world is being denied but you refuse to take any actions to prove it and get angry and indignant at the fact noone is handing you awards and singing your praises.
 
It may seem like I'm being nasty but if you want it that badly DO IT! That's what every single other person on here has done. We PLAY and MAKE music whether we are geniuses or not because that's what we want to do... so we DO IT!!
 
 




My pleasure can only be recovered by other means such as through electric shock therapy or by other means.  It cannot be recovered by me doing the things I would of otherwise enjoyed since this anhedonia has already been going on for 7 months and no amount of me engaging in enjoyable activities has brought back any degree of pleasure whatsoever.
 
As for me learning music theory and such, I may have been reluctant at first since the idea of learning and such wasn't very appealing to me at first and was boring to me.  But over time, I have developed a sense of enjoyment towards learning.  But that has all faded away now that I have this anhedonia.
2015/02/10 21:58:19
Beepster
So continue learning the theory (it is a rather dry and bland subject anyway). Then if and when you feel better you'll have some knowledge to help you acheive your (supposed) goal of being a composer.
 
I have been in ridiculous downswings in my life that most people would have eaten a bullet over. What did I do? I put my damned head down, learned theory and broke through it.
 
Depression is self perpetuating. The trick is to distract yourself in the midst of it, keep busy and make yourself "feel" useful and valuable... even if it is just a charade. Eventually you WILL become useful and valuable to yourself and others which helps lift the depression.
 
You're welcome. My consulting fee is $50. You can pay the receptionist on the way out. We will not be booking you for another appointment.
 
G'night.
2015/02/10 22:01:39
sharke
For the love of God someone please lock this thread. Ima begging you!
2015/02/10 22:04:54
SonicFan
Beepster
So continue learning the theory (it is a rather dry and bland subject anyway). Then if and when you feel better you'll have some knowledge to help you acheive your (supposed) goal of being a composer.
 
I have been in ridiculous downswings in my life that most people would have eaten a bullet over. What did I do? I put my damned head down, learned theory and broke through it.
 
Depression is self perpetuating. The trick is to distract yourself in the midst of it, keep busy and make yourself "feel" useful and valuable... even if it is just a charade. Eventually you WILL become useful and valuable to yourself and others which helps lift the depression.
 
You're welcome. My consulting fee is $50. You can pay the receptionist on the way out. We will not be booking you for another appointment.
 
G'night.




Although I appreciate your suggestion, why would I do anything in my life if it is nothing good without my pleasure?  You might now be asking that if I am not willing to do anything in my life without my pleasure, then why is it that I am talking here and trying to help recover my lost pleasure?  It would be because me living to try and recover my lost pleasure the only way that I know is likely to work (through electric shock therapy and such) and me talking about my loss of pleasure is the only thing now making my life at least a tad bit worth living for now despite my anhedonia and depression.  In other words, the only life worth living to me now would be me living to try and regain the very thing that made my life worth living for in the first place (which would be my pleasure) and nothing else.  Not even pursuing my own composing dream right now would make my life good and worth living.
2015/02/10 22:25:01
sharke
Don't bother replying with any advice or suggestions, no matter how well intended they are. He'll just roll out the same stock reply that nothing is worth doing because he can't experience pleasure. I'm sorry to sound harsh and heartless but let's face it, we've all been here before with this guy. Whatever you say, he'll dismiss out of hand and repeat how pointless everything is. I cannot help but feel that this is all just a cry for attention. He's up there on his podium of self pity, and woe be tide anyone who tries to tell him that things aren't as bad as they seem. This is a job for a trained psychiatrist, not members of a lighthearted forum.
 
SonicFan you are taking advantage of the good nature of people on this forum for purposes of attention and I would respectfully ask you to stop it. There are other people who can help you, whose job it is to help people. You have made it quite clear, in post after post, that you have no intention of accepting anyone's advice and no intention of absorbing a damn thing anyone says to you. So please take it elsewhere. There are forums dedicated to this kind of stuff - this is not one of them.
2015/02/10 22:31:49
SonicFan
sharke
Don't bother replying with any advice or suggestions, no matter how well intended they are. He'll just roll out the same stock reply that nothing is worth doing because he can't experience pleasure. I'm sorry to sound harsh and heartless but let's face it, we've all been here before with this guy. Whatever you say, he'll dismiss out of hand and repeat how pointless everything is. I cannot help but feel that this is all just a cry for attention. He's up there on his podium of self pity, and woe be tide anyone who tries to tell him that things aren't as bad as they seem. This is a job for a trained psychiatrist, not members of a lighthearted forum.
 
SonicFan you are taking advantage of the good nature of people on this forum for purposes of attention and I would respectfully ask you to stop it. There are other people who can help you, whose job it is to help people. You have made it quite clear, in post after post, that you have no intention of accepting anyone's advice and no intention of absorbing a damn thing anyone says to you. So please take it elsewhere. There are forums dedicated to this kind of stuff - this is not one of them.




So you think I am just begging for self-pity?  I'm actually not and I am actually trying to rationalize and reason against the values others have which state my pleasure is not the only good and greatest thing in my life.  I am not in the mindset of some whiny spoiled brat seeking attention and self-pity.  Rather, I am in a cool calm intellectual state of mind trying to refute and disprove the things you and others are saying.
 
I am against the values and beliefs of others which state that there are other things in life that are good besides our pleasure.  I wish to prove once and for all through science and/or philosophy that my hedonistic values and beliefs are correct and that the values and beliefs of others are wrong (or, at least, I am hoping to disprove them anyway).  This is because there are many people who would say to me something such as that "We all have losses we must accept and move on with.  Therefore, you should, too."  These types of people do not understand my hedonistic mindset and just simply reject it out of thin air.  However, if I were to somehow prove my hedonistic values and beliefs as being true somehow, only then would these people truly understand my loss of pleasure and only then would they understand my hedonistic values and beliefs and agree with them.
 
I know I said earlier that I would have no right to go against the values and beliefs of others just as they would have no right to go against mine.  However, I do have the right to try and disprove them to at least try and make you see how you are wrong (that is, if you are wrong to begin with).  However, I could be the one who is wrong.  But even if I am wrong and that there are truly other good and greater things in my life besides my pleasure, I am never going to change my hedonistic values anyway since they are my one and only true values in life.
 
The only other thing now in my life that makes my life worth living despite my depression and anhedonia is me living to try and prove once and for all that we are all inferior human beings with worthless lives without our pleasure.
2015/02/10 23:03:29
yorolpal
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cAYDiPizDIs
2015/02/10 23:09:06
sharke
You repeat the same stuff over and over and it's gibberish to everyone except you. This forum is not the place for it. Please go and unravel your brain somewhere else. I'm on the brink of reporting it as spam. 
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