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2012/09/29 19:33:49
JDavis1954
Mammoth sequencing project here.  An estimated 73,000 notes in this one.  I used EWQLSO Platinum Plus for instruments. 
 
Please let me know what you think!
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dqEmWNvSs4&feature=plcp
 
Thanks,
Jerry
2012/09/29 19:49:11
Mooch4056
JERRY!!!


This is fantastic!!! Great job at sequencing this. Best cover song on here EVER!!

Amazing!!! 

The East West Quantum Leap Symphonic Orchestra Platinum kicks ass...wow!! Makes me want to go out and purchase it!


Can't say enough about how good this is! Real sounds ...dynamics are great .....and by Bethoveen the master.....




Just awesome!!
2012/09/29 19:50:26
Lynn
It takes more than a good set of samples to create something of this magnitude.  Your knowledge of the orchestra is what makes this sound so good.  I applaud your efforts and would like to know how you inputted the notes.
2012/09/29 19:51:01
Mooch4056



Ps...did you play the score into sonar or use finale enter the score same to midi then mix in sonar ....tell us the process of entering the notes ....


Great Job Jerry ....you complete me!!!!

2012/09/29 21:07:27
Crg
That was quite a job either way. More so if Jerry played each peice from sheet music. 
2012/09/29 21:16:18
sharke
Wow!
2012/09/29 23:30:38
offnote
So it was not a Beethoven himself ? oh, they didn't have a sonar back then, forgot.
2012/09/30 00:20:39
Old55
Stunning.  
2012/09/30 00:37:58
Rus W
Wonderful!! I heard 3/4 of No. 5 this morning (actual orchestra), This is amazing work. I second on having the knowledge of orchestration. Was this piece just something out the blue or do you have others like it? (Not necessarily covers only)

Great job. (And the analyst in me could help, but do so!)

*Standing O*
2012/09/30 17:18:41
JDavis1954
Dang!  Thanks for all of the replies. 

Here's a stab at answering your questions.

I obtained the full score of the 9th Symphony and started working with my favorite, the 2nd Movement.  I used the Staff view in Sonar to input all of the notes.  With EWQLSO, there are different instruments for different articulations, so I had more than the 12 types of instruments (violin, viola, cello, contrabass, flute, oboe, clarinet, bassoon, french horn, trumpet, trombone, and timpani) to input.  For example, for first violin, I needed sustained vibrato, which is a harder attack articulation, and sometimes needed a legato articulation within the same measure, or a staccatto, and there are also pizzacatto parts as well.  As you can imagine, this took quite a long time to complete (about 4 months start to finish), the input taking the lion's share of time.  It was a definitely a learning experience for me.  I played trumpet in junior high school, and can read music, but I have no experience or formal education in orchestral music.  I was able to read up on it, which was a big help.  MIDI doesn't care which instrument is playing, it will play what you input using the instrument you configure.  But the instruments in an orchestra are sometimes in different keys.  I had to figure out and transpose the MIDI notes for what was written for Horn in the key of D and Horn in the key of F.  Also, I had no idea contrabass was written an octave higher than it is played.  And there is math involved with figuring out how to input some of the tripletted 16th or 32nd notes and such, but I love problem solving and puzzles, so it was all good to me.

After I got all of the notes input and the articulations the way I wanted them, I used Piano view to work on the dynamics by setting the velocities of the notes.  Then I used volume control on the clips to add further dynamics.

And you know the rest - mixing and "mastering" (quotes due to the fact that I have no idea how to really do mastering!), bouncing and rendering.

The 4th Movement is known as Ode to Joy, but I must say that this was a pure joy to do all the way through.  It is so gratifying to put so much effort into something and have it come out so beautiful.

I have completed the 1st Movement and am in the process of putting together a story line in photos for a YouTube video of that one.

I have composed several original pieces that I will post here at some point.

Hope this answers your questions and thanks again for the feedback.  I welcome any other questions or comments.

Thanks,
Jerry

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