2012/11/17 16:39:36
drumstixkev
Your arrangement and performance are just great. I love the percussion work.  KUDOS!


Kev
2012/11/17 18:19:11
Rus W
Janet

Thanks, Rus!  Hadn't thought about the Lion King for ages.  Maybe you have something there.  :)  Minor cadence?  Is that what that is?  I guess it just sounded cool so I did it. :)  And yes, I 'heard' a more fleshed out version too, but since my arm doesn't like my mouse anymore, I decided to at least finish it somehow and not leave it languishing on my DAW forever.  

Rus, is ABACADA called the Sonata form?  I've done that a few times but thought it was wrong.  :)  I guess it's wrong for a pop song, but maybe in someone's universe it's cool?  :)  

Not in the sense in how the big boys did it back then and now (those who still write them these days - not just play the ones the big boys wrote) It just serves as an example to what through composition is. Now, perhaps your piece could turn into a sonata -- or symphony, but I don't think orchestral timbre was intended here. I was just providing an example on how to tone down the repetition ScottyT pointed out.

There's no need to make that huge of a leap just to avoid it as I said earlier (unless you really wanna write one) the theme is something that sticks with the listener and you indeed had it. In "mainstream" pop (including pop/rock/hiphop/country,etc) standards (jazz), the form is usually AABA (32-bar standards see this form) and ABBA (Spelled like the group). 

A would be the theme, B would be a variation of A (The bridge in ABA and AABA form or the chorus in AB or AABA form whereas the C section definitely no pun intended here) may be the bridge, but that would depend on what B is. (The C section often appears in a pop tune, but can exist in other genres. Modern section labels Verse-Chorus-Bridge (ABC) Verse-Pre-Chorus-Chorus-Bridge (ABCD) the Intro and Outro would get there own section letters if present in a song.

Heck, write a song with sections encompassing the entire alphabet! That would damn sure be a through composition, but it be extremely difficult to follow it. Again, you don't need a ton of sections, if some repeat, just vary them and there are many, many always to implement variation, so it is possible to have two A sections that differ, but only slightly since the A section usually provides the song's theme (and this can be displayed melodic, harmonic and rhythmically).

Take Pachibel's Canon. The term canon itself is "synonymous" with repetition; yet, you can still evoke variations. http://www.youtube.com/wa...MK6heUdRr-E Note, the "ground bass" or "ostinato" pattern being repeated whereas the arpeggios are supplying the variation. Or the standard - "Take Five" (AABB) (this kickass version - listen to the whole thing - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBkH4aydwhY - note, all the variations of the ostinato bassline (especially the bassline) and harmony (the harpist provides) this tune is most famous for!)


Apologies for the bold face. I meant to just bold one word - not a paragraph; therefore, I bolded the entire reply.
2012/11/17 21:46:20
eko
I liked it. I think I hear some crazy notes around 2:20 on the piano - the storm drums are effective for the mood.
2012/11/18 00:44:59
theguitarplayer
Well, that was so nice I gave you 5 stars on your site. It was a little different for you, but I liked it. In fact, I'm going to go back and download it so I can jam along. Thanks for sharing. Loveit. Peace be with you. Blessings, John
2012/11/18 06:05:22
Scottytunes
Rus W


Scottytunes


It sounds indecisive alright. LOL
To be totally honest, I found it to be a little bit on the repetitious side and lacking structure but maybe it's just me. 
That's the root of fleshing things out, but you know how mainstream music is. If one day somebody came up with a through-composed genre-specific tune, not everyone would like or dislike it even, but it will certainly take some getting used to.


If you don't know what that is:


ABACADA - The A section is the only section that is repeating while B, C and D sections are different - completely separate from A. Sonata Form may be the best application. Though it is something separate, most often such a work sees through-composition.


And no, it wasn't just you, I pointed it out earlier. Maybe she's still working on it (hence, the pun)

Rus I understand that. Thanks.
2012/11/18 06:14:53
Scottytunes
I like this better on the second listen. I think it is the riff and the drum beat that make it seem repetitious to me. Maybe some change ups in those would help to keep my interest.
2012/11/18 09:12:13
geeare1
Hi Janet,

Really cool tune! I like the storm drums and the change up around 1:58 is very nice. You play a line at around 2:50 (coming out of the aforementioned change up) that's cool melodically and rhythmically, too. 

I can relate to the title, too 
2012/11/18 15:40:08
Janet
Thank you, Terry.  Glad you liked it.  :)  I'll have to go back and see how I did those strings cause it was so long ago I can't remember.  But I'll have a look.  Thanks again!  

Thanks, Kev! :)

Thanks Rus.  I appreciate it. :)

Thanks John.  Glad you could jam along.  And thanks for the 5 stars too! 

Scott, you listened TWICE?  Thanks!  :)  Yeah, you should have heard the drums BEFORE I edited the last part.  :)  Perhaps I'll go back and do some more cutting.  Thanks for the ideas guys!  

Thanks Gary.  Glad you liked it.  :)  Yeah, I'm taking less time to name things these days (not that I'm writing much anyway, but anyway.  I can't remember why that title popped into my mind, but I figured it worked, so....)  :)  Thanks again.  

And I hope none of you get exasperated at me if I don't change this right away.  I've got another one or two begging to get written now, and as little time as I have at my DAW, I have to be picky....But I'm keeping your ideas in mind!  :)  
2012/11/18 15:43:53
Janet
Woops...Eko...thank you too!  Crazy notes at 2:20...as in bad?  Yeah, Storm Drum is kinda cool to work with.  But I won't tell you how long it took me to get it figured out!    (let's say I don't like to read manuals...and when I do I don't always understand them.  Thankfully, there are guys around here that can interpret for me.)  :)  
2012/11/18 16:06:56
hornplayer
Hi Janet! I'm glad to see you are still around.
 
I have nothing to add that hasn't been said. I enjoyed listening.
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