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  • The Beepster Creep... First tune with X2 and TH2 (p.5)
2012/11/10 11:02:43
Beepster
Thanks, guys. Just taking a break from it for a while to reset my ears and mind before attempting to fix it up some more. I also want to try tweaking it using different speakers and headphones (just found my bag of various crappy consumer headphones). Hoping that will make it sound better on more systems because it sounds pretty muffled on my laptop. Cheers. 
2012/11/15 18:57:52
ProjectM
Great stuff Beepster! 

I got nothing to add to the comments on the mix. Sounds like TH2 performs well in this tune! I am just curious, do you have all your drums coming in on a stereo track and mess with the entire kit there? Or are you sending all your drums to individual tracks in Sonar for a full detailed mix?

Anyway, here's just a small tip; when you've mastered mixing the drum kit, you should start looking at the velocity lanes in the MIDI track, especially for the hihat and ride. When they are hammered on at 127 all the way you get the machine gun effect which is destroying the authentic sound and also, it sounds not as good;) Small adjustments all the way to the velocity of the MIDI notes remedies this really, really well. Actually, I use Sonar's Velocity MIDI plugin for this a whole lot. And Groove Quantizing to mess up the timing just enough to have it sound more human. Look into it some time, you'll love it! 

So, the song it self, that is what matters, it's great! It's one bad ass metal tune and can't wait to hear you making stuff with vocals. However, the guitars speak nicely for themselves in this one and the shredding is, as the last time, right on the spot!

Well done!
2012/11/15 20:41:51
philz
Cool stuff.  Some fine shredding in there, and other than the drums needing to be a bit more prominent, some nice production work too.
2012/11/15 22:52:57
Rus W
Epic "Boss Fight"! (Crazy stuff happening) or tearing up a course as Tony Hawk or Shaun White! 

Nice tone with the minor diminished chord riffs/motifs, Unfortunately, I'm with everyone else on the volume balancing!

Other than that, nice work!
2012/11/16 00:41:50
BenMMusTech
Not my cup of tea, playing and the tone of the guitar are cool but the mix is awful.  The drums are way to low. 

Peace Ben
2012/11/17 11:17:14
Beepster
@ProjectM... Thanks, buddy. Yeah that hi hat is kind of annoying in retrospect. All the BFD tracks are separate and it was performed on my velocity sensitive padKontrol but I'm not quite used to playing on it yet. I also might have been a little heavy handed on it because the hi hats I used to use on my old acoustic kit were very stiff so I'd wail on them so it's likely out of habit. I haven't really taken much time working with the PRV yet so I didn't bother doing any tweaks that way. For this I'll probably just turn down the track's velocity knob. I tried some of the quantize and velocity options in Sonar but it threw everything WAY out of wack so I just kept doing live takes until it sounded in time with the music. I screwed up when I did the original beds to the click track (it drifted at certain points) so I couldn't even program it if I wanted to. Had to be done live. Anyway... sorry for the late reply (scatterbrained these days) and thanks for checking it out. I'll fix it up once I'm in my new space and repost. Cheers!

@philz... Thanks, man. :-)

@rus... Glad you liked it. It was kind of a weird one to write solos over because it kind of flip flops around the modes within the riffs. It kind of turned into a hybrid of Aeolian, Dorian and Phrygian while kind of using chromatics to transition. The solos for the fast part were all written as I went along but the outro was improvised (that took a ton of takes to get something passable due to the odd nature of the riff). It was an interesting adventure. Thanks for listening.

@ben... Thanks for checking it out. Yeah, it's not exactly where I want it and I knew that but I'm still learning. Just gotta keep slugging away at this stuff to get more experience. Cheers.
2012/11/20 07:31:17
gswitz
I like it Beepster. I made it to the end. :-) Gave me some food for thought on my own jams. And my opinion on drums... doesn't have to be how everyone else does it. I heard a mix a while back where the snare was ALL high end and it was kinda cool. If it gets the vibe going for you, go with it. So, again, I made it to the end, and listened to another. 3 actually. I preferred beepster creep of the 3 on sound cloud I heard. It's more the type of thing I might try. Also the sounds varied more during the song. Several minutes of the same instruments can get mantra like. Beepster creep seemed to have more movement in it.
2012/11/20 14:00:56
Beepster
Thanks, man. Yeah that other metal tune wasn't very inspired because I wrote it backwards. I had just bought BFD Eco and wanted to try slapping together some of the grooves using it's internal sequencer. Then I forced the song around that so it was a bit stifling creatively. This one was written my usual way with the riffs being mapped out first then the drums came after. That funky tune was another experiment which I did the first week after buying Sonar so I really didn't know what I was doing and it's WAY different than my usual style. It was fun though. I'd like to get really good at that kind of thing to see if I can snag some TV/film work. I was kind of going for something you'd hear at the start of a TV show. Cheers.
2012/11/22 22:12:53
evadianepug
Wild.  What I heard of the drums sounded good.  This definitely has some speed licks.  I think more bass and drums, or clearer bass and drums.  I like the turbo guitar sound!
2012/11/23 16:58:13
Beagle
nice work, beep.  fantastic guitar playing!

I'd like to hear the kick, tho.  it's pretty much non-existant.

love those licks, tho!  great work!
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