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 Herb- At one time I thought midi correction was for whimps lol. The problem I seem to have is that if I retake a part and correct a mistake in one place then more times than not I make another small one somewhere else. In live performance I just go with it but in a recording it can be changed in midi. I'll see what I can do to this in midi. No offense taken at all. Sometimes though to my ears what some would call a clash doesn't sound bad to me ...not sure why that is maybe my ears are wearing out.

      
 

I know what you mean. When I first started, I would record several tracks and then add some more.... then when I started to get into the mixing stages, I was hearing all these small mistakes, timing issues and other things that just were not working. Trying to find them was hard enough....and when I did, it often meant, as you pointed out...fix one track and that throws something else off.   this caused me to throw in the towel on many a song. To much work involved to fix it. 


BUT... it is fixable. You just have to be willing to do the work. Mute all the tracks except one. Work on that track and get it 100% right.  Then you unmute one other track and listen with surgical precision to that new track. see what is perfect and what is not. 


Can you fix it with editing or does it require a punch in/punch out and record a new clip in there to fix it? Either way, keep working until you have 2 tracks that work together and you hear no conflicts. 


repeat that process one track at a time until you have them all in the mix. 


Sometimes I simply delete a track entirely and start again from scratch or if the track just wasn't working, I delete it and move to something else. Not all "brilliant ideas" end up being good ideas, so don't be afraid to delete that bagpipe track in a house trance tune. 


If you take the time when tracking, to add one track at a time.... decide if it's a scratch track...a place holder of sorts, until you have more time to devote to recording the "keeper" track. It's when you get in a hurry, throw a bunch of tracks together and each has a few nits in them..... and things sound kinda good to start with, that you get into trouble and end up with something that could have been better, had you taken the time to get it right. 


Envelopes can be your friend as I mentioned above.... more than one time I have used an envelope to "edit out" a timing issue, a bad note, s's at the ends of words on BGV not ending together...... they are life savers and if they work well, it sure beats recording that take again. 

Good performance.  There is some noise on the low note, that may be part of the patch.  But I think most of this could be sweetened up with some EQ and compression.  The trumpet sounds right on top of the piano to me.

You're an excellent piano player... but dont' be afraid to cheat a midi note here and there, we all do it.

Nice sone.  Daryl

 

 Well guys I went into the midi editing and really goofed things up on the first track. I decided it was less time consuming to play the tune again so that's what I did. I heard a few places where I could have made a midi tweak or two but decided to keep it more human and I think I may need a little more midi editing practice.

 I simply played the track in again with no kind of corrections. I added a new patch from Z3TA-2 which I just purchased yesterday,really loving that synth! The piano is Pianissimo . I followed up the mix with a Breverb patch and a combination of TRacks plugins and PC. Hope you like it! I linked it here again but it is changed above too.


http://soundcloud.com/starise/give-thanks

John- Thanks for all of your kind positive comments! That other mix is still far from done but I did make another mix I intend to put up soon.:)

NotNat- Thanks for listening. I tried to minimize the clinkers this time although there are a few places where things are not quite sitting right on the beat.

 Daryl- Thanks !

Herb- Thanks for  your advice. I am still working on getting the midi editing right. My main problem seems to stem from some of the notes  holding over as part of my playing style. When I try to edit it things gets too mechanical sounding know what I mean?  More practice is needed. I may try to tweak this one yet.I have used envelopes and am really loving the lanes in X2 for that purpose. Great ideas as always Herb.

 Daryl- Thanks.  In the new track I made sure to get rid of them. My velocity was a little too high and the EQ needed some work.






 
John-Thanks you for all of the positive comments. I really wanted to keep the trumpet there but it just didn't seem to be working out so I decided to change it.

 Really nice arrangement, I enjoyed it

nice arrangement and fantastic performance, Tim!  you're getting great advice from others on the mix and technical part of it, so I'll just say that I enjoyed the performace!  (I didn't hear the original - only the version without trumpet)

ok - I lied.  I have to say one thing that hasn't been said yet - I'm hearing distortion on the heavy velocity notes.  which sampler or synth are you using for output?  I think you may be overdriving it.

Ohgrant- Thanks for listening.

 Beagle- Thanks for listening. I heard a little distortion on the track but I thought I had eliminated it. I'll go back in and recheck it. I think part of the problem is me using a controller with unweighted keys. Some of the notes might need a velocity fix. I heard a few hits that were a little too much and a few other small things. I hope I don't botch the midi this time lol. I'm ok as long as I save the original track just in case lol.

Very good... this works much better... well done...

very pretty piece, and nice playing.

i like dynamics, but that one high note just happens stick out like a sore thumb....right at .03, and then after that in a few spots...
i don't know if i'd put fx across it just to tame that one note, but i think i would bother to put a volume envelope on it and grab that one peak and take a bit off of it just at the one note....

 Notnat- Thanks for listening.

 Batsbrew-Thanks! I went in a reduced the velocity of those offending notes. Thanks for the listen. I can be like a bull in a china shop with midi but this went ok.

This one is better. It still could be polished, but I see where you said that's not what you're going for, so I would say "good job." (Good job in that this is improved)

It reminds me of Janet actually, which is a compliment because I'm a big fan of her music.