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2015/01/27 16:38:03
Soundblend
i had no clue that this could be so difficult.....
2015/01/28 00:59:25
tomixornot
Soundblend
Now i just need to figure out how i gonna manage the sound.

How do you guys manage to record the sound... ? Hardwiring the Audio interface
or is there a software rewiring program that can do it.



Sound is usually recorded at the same time automatically, using Active Presenter (or other screen capture).
 
Did that not work for you ?
2015/01/28 03:15:00
Sycraft
So the best option isn't free, but worth looking at, is nVidia Shadowplay. You need a newer nVidia card, at least a GTX 650 or newer, and then have to install the GeForce Experience.
 
The reason it is the best option is that it does all the encoding in dedicated hardware on the GPU, so zero impact on the CPU. It will handle sound recording and can record system sound, or system and microphone sound.
 
The only downside in my opinion is the quality per bit isn't as good as some of the optimized software encoders like X264. However for Youtube, it doesn't matter. Capture and edit at a high bitrate 50-100mbps, and then let Youtube convert it down.
 
Now if you don't want to toss down the money for a new graphics card, the next best thing I've seen is Bandicam. $40 and it can record the whole screen, or just part of it, can record system sounds and mic to separate tracks, and knows how to use a bunch of hardware acceleration including QuickSync and AMD APP H.264. So for newer Intel or AMD video cards, you can accelerate encoding. It can fall back to software, if you don't have supported hardware.
 
I do not know of any good free software, however.
2015/01/28 04:55:59
Soundblend
tomixornot
 
Sound is usually recorded at the same time automatically, using Active Presenter (or other screen capture).
 
Did that not work for you ?



Well it works with not to bad quality, small file size... that is awesome and it records windows audio
but not the DAW audio, the fps seems a bit jumpy, is the software a bit cpu hungry ? 

Well usually programs record audio in " windows only "  mode !

Option 1 *
There's windows sound, and there's DAW sound, they use separate routing ( road / trail ..whatever )
Some Audio Interfaces have re routing software with it.
With that you are able to re route ASIO to MME / WDM sound enabling you to record
with software for windows recording, like Screen recorders or other windows recording software.

Like the ESI Maya 44e, with  DirectWire , i had that card once, but sold it along with another computer.

the DirectWire function is something i would wish for in Cakewalk Sonar, if they should add a feature.


Option 2 *
If not........then  you need to Hard wire your Audio Interface maybe like this :

Audio interface phones out, into L and R jack's in to the L and R input of the Audio Interface
bad thing is.... you use your inputs, and it limit the possibility to record Vocal at one of the input
if you only have 2 inputs.

You could use a small Mixer and send the audio from Audio Interface ( phones out )
to Ch 1 and ch 2  ( left and right ) into the mixer ,with a  stereo to 2 mono... ( splitter )
then add a Microphone ch 3.... then blend those together with the mixer and use the mixer L and R main out
into Left and Right of the Audio Interface.

Option 3 *  

The Audio interface Phones out,  into the line in of the onboard soundcard ( we can use that for windows sound ) !
then we save the 2 inputs on the Audio Interface... how the latency will be, i don't know.
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But maybe there's a Software re route software somewhere.......
or maybe Cakewalk can add something in the DAW ( Sonar ) that send / route audio into windows 

I tried to " share " Asio driver, from within Sonar but it did not help ....
guess it's " driver share " only, and not " sound sharing " ( audio that run through )

It is like having a car and 2 drivers, both may be allowed to use the car.......... ( Share driver )
but it wont benefit if both should try drive the car at the same time, in different way
they would probably wreck the car, and hurt them self. ( " causing " dropout )

It may look something like this ( game over ) LOL , mhhh " with some respect ".

I am no expert, but me thinks it works like dat.., if i am wrong plz help me out here....

2015/01/28 06:16:38
Soundblend
Sycraft
Now if you don't want to toss down the money for a new graphics card, the next best thing I've seen is Bandicam. $40 and it can record the whole screen, or just part of it, can record system sounds and mic to separate tracks, and knows how to use a bunch of hardware acceleration including QuickSync and AMD APP H.264. So for newer Intel or AMD video cards, you can accelerate encoding. It can fall back to software, if you don't have supported hardware.
 
I do not know of any good free software, however.


Thank's a lot, i will try Bandicam, i am still searching for something that give a good
picture quality vs filesize ratio ,guess that is up to the encoder.

I like software that is simple, and with option to use a separate encoder ( if needed )
2015/01/28 08:13:33
Soundblend
Did a short Screen Recording with bandicam excellent image and file size
i did hear the sound, but it was not recorded with the Screen Recorder in windows.
2015/01/28 08:52:27
tomixornot
Here is a quick demo using Active Presenter that capture Sonar's audio.

I have disabled the PC sound card. All audio is playback via the audio interface (Roland Quad Capture). The video is not as clear, as I've not fine tune any setting, just to show audio can be captured at the same time.

http://youtu.be/d1SKqm5vBOg
2015/01/28 09:02:00
Soundblend
uhh, while you do that can you show, your control panel , sound and so forth
are you using different audio drivers... ?
2015/01/28 09:32:07
tomixornot

2015/01/28 09:39:12
Soundblend
Thanks , seems like i have similar settings

Closing in........, i need to use wasapi to be able to record from windows
if i use Ci1 line there's no sound... i guess, i need to double check that one.

Video detail, size and framerate, is excellent on Bandicam

maybe the solution is to hard wire out from my Audio interface ( phones ) with a splitter
then to my inputs (L1 and R2 ) , i know i will get sound then... but i will lose my inputs

so i do not wanna do that, maybe i will get some latency as well.

Any solution, to do it da software way

Can anyone else try Bandicam, and pop up a short video demo on youtube
and see what is working and not .. ?

Did check it is only when i select win 8.1 sound (wasapi ) in Bandicam audio setting
i will have windows sound, if i select my steinberg line Ci1 i will have no sound.

Edit : Video Clips Removed.

Can anyone explain me this ?

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