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  • "Lights Out" (Power Rock) Mix #2 Up - 10-19 (p.4)
2012/10/15 17:04:18
paulo
Great production as we come to expect from you.. Songwise, something seems a bit off in the chorus to me - vocal delivery seems to be a little clunky. Dunno if that was your intention,  but for me it could flow a little better.
2012/10/17 12:40:04
jamesg1213
Agreed on the above ^^^

Excellent song, production and performance though Bob, you really sound scarily convincing on this one! Huge guitar sounds..care to share your signal chain on those?
2012/10/19 03:42:39
Bob Oister
NOTE: Mix #2 Up 10-19
 
Thanks to everyone for your input, observations, comments and suggestions!
 
For the new mix, I extended the little drum fill during the first break to make the stop a bit less awkward, I high passed the left side distortion verse guitar a little bit more to pull a touch of low end out, eqed the kick and snare a bit, and used Frank's "split and nudge" suggestion to pocket the "Walk Away" vocals during the chorus and make them gel a bit better with the straight beat.

Thanks for hanging in there with me on this one, Frank.  To be honest, I didn't think there was any room between syllables for nudging and sliding on the very fast phrasing, and I was surprised how much of a difference a 2 millisecond nudge could make to the vocal groove!  Hardly noticeable, but I think it seemed to tighten the chorus vocals up with the drums.

 
Thanks again to everyone who listened and commented, you guys ROCK!
Bob
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2012/10/19 03:52:26
Bob Oister
shawn@trustmedia.tv:
 
 
Hey, Shawn,
 
Thank you, Sir, I really appreciate you checking this out for me and also your kind words of encouragement!
 
Nice work on your recent post, "Native Heart" very cool song with a great mix!
 
Thanks again, and have a good one, Shawn!
Bob
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philip:
 
 
Hey, Philip,
 
It's really great to hear from you!  How are you, my friend?  Hope all is well and life is good!
 
Thank you very much for giving this a listen, and also for your very kind words!  I always look forward to and greatly appreciate your input, observations and comments, and your friendship and support means a great deal to me.
 
Thanks again, Philip, and have a great night!
Bob
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mesh:
 
 
Hi, Mesh,
 
How are you?  Hope you're having a great week!
 
Thank you so much for checking this song out for me and for your very encouraging comments!
 
I really appreciate you taking time to give this a listen and also your input and observations, that's what helps make this forum such a great place.
 
Sincere thanks, and best wishes!
Bob
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jamesyoyo:
 
Hey, James,
 
How's it going, buddy?  Hope you're doing great!
 
Thanks for lending your very good ears to another one of my songs, and also for the great ideas and suggestions!
 
On this new mix, I backed down the low end on the kick ever so slightly, because I feel it still has to have some "thump" to get felt through the thick wall of guitars, and as both you and Frank suggested, I tried a little "clip split and nudge" work to try to pocket the "Walk Away" sections of the chorus vocals with the straight beat a bit better.
 
Thanks again for all your past input and advice, James.  I think I must be on the right track, because you mentioned three of my favorite bands in your comments.   Have a great weekend, James!
Bob
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shawn@trustmedia.tv:
 
 
Hey, Shawn,
 
Thanks again, buddy, for the second listen, and also for the great kick drum tip with Boost 11, I definitely plan to try that trick on the kick drum in a future project.
 
I think on this second mix, I was able to get away with just some EQ surgery to keep the kick drum pretty much in the ball park for this particular song.
 
I'm very grateful for your input and ideas, Shawn, have a rockin' weekend!
Bob
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wookie:
 
 
Hi, John,
 
How are you, my friend? Doing well, I hope!
 
Thank you for giving this one a listen for me, and also for your kind words!
 
Your two latest posts, "Atom" and "The Higgs Bovine" were really great, and also a lot of fun to listen to.  Good stuff!
 
Thanks again, John, and best wishes for a wonderful weekend!
Bob
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myconsumerclub:
 
 
Hi,
 
Thanks for giving this a listen and commenting, greatly appreciated!
 
Have a good one!
Bob
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2012/10/19 08:14:32
Guitarpima
Nice -n- heavy!

I like the song. A word of caution though. Never try and hit a drunk. The best way to take care of those idiots is to deprive them of something they most desire, oxygen. Much less trouble and your hand won't hurt after. Of course, it helps to be my size for that.
2012/10/19 10:09:46
notnat
That feels better Bob... now for some really good advice...

poke him in the eye, and then take one of his knees out with side kick... conflict over...
say goodbye to everyone, and leave before the police get there... 

I love this song...
2012/10/19 10:16:41
daryl1968
excellent Bob - I missed the first mix so I can't compare but this sounds CD ready to me. Great song subject
2012/10/19 10:23:25
batsbrew

nice one bob!

i kept waiting for you to say ".....in london"

heheh

great mix, i like your ideas you came up with for the 'new' mix.
i use the split and nudge from time to time, it's great.

honestly, i actually go thru the entire set of tracks, before automation, and remove all dead space, and tip and tail certain tracks even if i'm going to automate them, i just like a super clean plate of wav files to work with, so often the 'nudge' is all i need.

it's a fine tuning groove thing....
i mean, if you nail it in real time, great, but as a mixer or producer, knowing how to do those micro adjustments is way cool, akin to the old cut and tape that the analog guys used to be so good at.

honestly, i think you more bass guitar in the mix.
the kick is nice and pointy and tight, that's not a problem.
but i'm missing the DEEP bass in this.....
everything else is good to go
2012/10/19 20:52:41
Bob Oister
bapu:
 
 
Hey, Ed,
 
How's it going, brother?  Hope you're gearing up for a rockin' weekend!
 
Thanks for checking in on this one for me, and for your positive comment and good observation!  As per your comment and Vicente's, for this new mix I extended the little drum fill during the break at 0:23 to hopefully make it a little less awkward for the stop.
 
Nice work with Daryl on the Forum Monkeys' debut release, funny stuff, man!
 
Thanks again for your ears and good input, have a great weekend!
Bob
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notnat:
 
 
Hey Frank,
 
Special thanks to you for hanging in there with me on this one and coming back for another listen!  As I mentioned above in the Mix #2 post, I really didn't think there was any room between syllables for nudging and sliding on the very fast phrasing, and I was very surprised how much of a difference that a tiny 2 millisecond nudge could make to the vocal groove!  Your suggestion really did the trick to tighten up the timing on the chorus vocals.
 
Also, super job on your remix for "Friends and Lovers", sounds radio ready!
 
Much thanks again, Frank, for all your great input and support here on the forum, and your musical talents and production skills are always top notch.  Have a great weekend, buddy!
Bob
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THE NIGHT FOX:
 
 
Hi, James,
 
Thanks, buddy, for giving this a listen and for your very kind words!  I really appreciate your comments.
 
Also, excellent job on your new post "Tears For You", great song, James!
 
Have a good weekend!
Bob
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Janet:
 
 
Hi, Janet,
 
How are you?  Doing great, I hope!
 
Thank you very much for checking this song out for me, and for your kind words of encouragement!
 
Yep, LOL, my last cover band was well known for blowing a few people's hats (and wigs) off with our volume!   But hey, it's rock and meant to be loud, right?
 
Thanks again, Janet, I always look forward to your input and greatly appreciate your support.  Have a great weekend!
Bob
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thepogue:
 
 
Hey, Tom,
 
How's it going, me brudda from anudda mudda?  I hope you're settling in well in your new surroundings in another hemisphere!
 
Mucho thanks for giving this baby a listen for me, and also your very kind words!  I always appreciate your input because you, Tony and Preston always put out super quality stuff.  Your new post for "Seeds of Dis-wonder" is another Distant Towers home run with monster playing and killer production!  Even working from two different continents, you guys ROCK!
 
Thanks again, Tom and I hope Tony's enjoying his well deserved vacation.  Have a good one, buddy!
Bob
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2012/10/19 22:31:52
notnat
Bob Oister


 
notnat:
 
 
Hey Frank,
 
Special thanks to you for hanging in there with me on this one and coming back for another listen!  As I mentioned above in the Mix #2 post, I really didn't think there was any room between syllables for nudging and sliding on the very fast phrasing, and I was very surprised how much of a difference that a tiny 2 millisecond nudge could make to the vocal groove!  Your suggestion really did the trick to tighten up the timing on the chorus vocals.
 
Also, super job on your remix for "Friends and Lovers", sounds radio ready!
 
Much thanks again, Frank, for all your great input and support here on the forum, and your musical talents and production skills are always top notch.  Have a great weekend, buddy!
Bob
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Thanks again Bob...
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