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  • TEARS FOR YOU - UNDER CONSTRUCTION NOW ! (p.3)
2012/10/19 05:17:42
THE NIGHT FOX
Bob Oister


Hi, James,
 
I missed the first version of this one, but this mix sounds really great!
 
Excellent playing and composition, and a nicely textured mix with a very smooth, relaxing vibe.
 
Good stuff, James, and I'm glad to hear that you're feeling better!
Bob
 
Hey Bob thanks for dropping in and leaving me some nice comments on my tune . Yea it sure feels good when your not sick , I just hope that was it for this season .
 
Thanks Bob - James



2012/10/19 07:46:03
tbosco
Hey James!

Just took a listen...  Man I love the change at 2:20!  Nice motion going on there too.  And the mix is very defined and intelligible at that point as well.
In the main body of the tune I feel the piano is awash in either a long reverb or the synth pads... a little hard to tell.  So it loses a bit of definition.  The long reverb might be OK if the piano was more prominent in the mix (lower the synths a bit).  The gong/crash cymbal seems way too loud to me, except the one during the change.  Maybe a little strategic panning/imaging of the bed sounds could also bring out the melody in the center.

Very nice composition and feel!  Hope you've shook that nasty flu.
2012/10/19 07:55:04
Guitarpima
I like it. I think it needs vox. I'm not sure about the change 60% into the song though. It seems out of place.

Other than my subjectives, Very well done!
2012/10/19 12:44:26
THE NIGHT FOX
tbosco


Hey James!

Just took a listen...  Man I love the change at 2:20!  Nice motion going on there too.  And the mix is very defined and intelligible at that point as well.
In the main body of the tune I feel the piano is awash in either a long reverb or the synth pads... a little hard to tell.  So it loses a bit of definition.  The long reverb might be OK if the piano was more prominent in the mix (lower the synths a bit).  The gong/crash cymbal seems way too loud to me, except the one during the change.  Maybe a little strategic panning/imaging of the bed sounds could also bring out the melody in the center.

Very nice composition and feel!  Hope you've shook that nasty flu.
 
Thanks for the listen and comments , you mention reverb . The only reverb added to any of my tracks is my piano track , all the other tracks have compression added to them and thats it .
I had to add some reverb to my piano because if I didn't the piano sound would too dry .
I did remix it again for the third time , I lowered my pad synth so it was behind my piano track .
I think what your hearing is my chords in my piano track and not my pad synth sounds that were there as a backing to support what I was playing in my piano track .
 
Hey it is what it is , I really don't think another remix is going to change anything . The last remix I did I made sure the piano track was much louder then all the other tracks and thats why I don't feel another change will make a difference but thanks for your comments and suggestions .
 
Oh yea I'm feeling much better now , that flu caught me but surprise because a month before I had my flu shot . Just my luck after getting my flu shot I ended up getting the flu anyway and then a week with a nasty sinus infection so yes for two weeks it was hell but thankfully it over with hopefully for the rest of this year and next year too .
 
James 



2012/10/19 12:47:20
daryl1968
very nice James - great 6/8 feel without being pushed in your face - subtle. I like it
2012/10/19 12:59:22
THE NIGHT FOX
Guitarpima


I like it. I think it needs vox. I'm not sure about the change 60% into the song though. It seems out of place.

Other than my subjectives, Very well done!

          Hey thanks buddy for the listen and your suggestions , I'm thinking about adding
          lyrics and vocals to it . As for the change in the 60% spot your taking about  my
          bridge section . I created it that way  because as you know a
          bridge is really all about sudden change in sound .  Taking your ears aways from the
          song for a moment , thats what I was thinking about when I created that sound in
          my bridge section .
 
          Thanks again for the heads up  , glad you enjoyed it and thanks for the listen .
 
          James
2012/10/19 13:10:10
JD1813
James, I really thoroughly enjoyed this piece!    Well played and mixed!  There were  many treats along the way, and the whole 6/8 feel reminded me very much of a Yanni at the Acropolis number, this one of yours would be a superb performance number like those, including the gong        Well done!!
John

2012/10/19 13:14:46
Starise
Hi James,  Great arrangement,also liked those changes around 2:10. You mentioned adding vocals later possibly. If I were going to add vocals maybe I would not be so concerned about the piano. Might even thin it out some. If I were not going to add vocals I would make the piano more pronounced. If you used midi you have a lot of possibilities there in using other sounds  different reverbs etc.

 Different people like differing amounts of reverb. Too much reverb though and the mix gets a washy sound depending on the amount and type. For me personally the reverb here is on the borders of being too much and maybe too large a space but thats only my opinion...others  might not think it is too much.

 In playing synth type piano sounds I think some of those sound designers take a mediocre piano sound and add verb to it in order to hide its mediocrity. I still haven't found a really decent piano sound built into a keyboard compared to the streaming samplers.And even some of those are not so great.  

 
2012/10/19 15:28:53
Guitarhacker
The tendency that we have when we are not sure of something is to hide it in the back......  This has a nice atmospheric aspect to it..... don't hide the piano. 

I would bring the piano up in the mix since it appears to be the main instrument. There's not much wrong with what and how you are playing it except it needs to be the spotlighted instrument. A few db's would probably be just about perfect.

The gong has to go.... it serves no useful purpose. 

I would probably start it a bit different if I was mixing it.... Just piano and some light strings. Let things come in as it goes along and builds..... 

That's just me though.... good job on this and a bit different for you,,,and I like the style. 


2012/10/19 20:40:38
THE NIGHT FOX
Guitarhacker


This has a nice atmospheric aspect to it..... don't hide the piano. 
The gong has to go.... it serves no useful purpose. 
I would probably start it a bit different if I was mixing it.... Just piano and some light strings. Let things come in as it goes along and builds..... 
 
Thanks Herb for the suggestions , I was out most of the afternoon at the doctors and read your comments on my cell phone and I'm just now replying .
I remixed the whole song over again , changed the reverb on the piano and even used a different piano in my cakewalk software .
In the first verse I doubled the piano track to get a fuller piano sound and then I remixed the other tracks .
I also got rid of the Gong like you suggested and shortened the intro fill by one measure .
Not much else I can do now , I can't get it to sound better then it sounds right now .
I reposted it on soundclick if you want to listen to it again , what I really need to do is buy some good piano software with good piano sounds to record with .
 
Thanks again for your comments and suggestions -James



JD1813


James, I really thoroughly enjoyed this piece!    Well played and mixed!  There were  many treats along the way .
 
Thanks for the listen and comments JD1813 , glad you enjoyed it .


Starise


Hi James,  Great arrangement,also liked those changes around 2:10. You mentioned adding vocals later possibly. If I were going to add vocals maybe I would not be so concerned about the piano. 
Different people like differing amounts of reverb. Too much reverb though and the mix gets a washy sound 
 
Thanks Starise for the comments and suggestion , I plan on writing some lyrics and adding vocals to it . I just reposted my newest remix on soundclick if you care to listen to it again .
I made alot of changes from all of your suggestions , hope everyone likes it now .
With what I have to work with this is pretty much it , I can't get it to sound any better then it is right now I have tried just about everything you guys have suggested .
 
Thanks -James

 


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