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  • VER 3 remix --> from John/JD1813 "Didn't Apply To You"
2012/10/18 09:29:12
JD1813
An update was posted last night around midnight,  I managed to replace a bad section of lead Vox in verse 3,  and I replaced the drum kit of the chorus sections with a "less busy" one.   I'm still not quite happy with the drums yet, I'm thinking it needs a drum fill as the cymbal swell happens,  but need more review.  Next I'll take a closer look at altering velocities of some of the guitar, and I think I hear slight timing off on certain guitar segments as well.  Thanks for any additional crits!      - John

    Here's one I've been working on this week.  This was one of those sudden inspirations that busted in on another project I was already recording and wouldn't leave me alone till I got it written down and brought to at least this level.  I was reviewing various guitar clips from the Dim Pro set and the Martin Acoustic jumped out and - well, the rest is here in the MP3.

Credits where due:
Herb/Guitarhacker --  I was already working on another project in which Herb was patiently teaching me about using EQ better.  Sending me numbers to poke in to the FX, tips on where and how to use which FX and Bus, screen captures of suggested tools and settings - man you really took a lot of time to help me way beyond even the forums here, Herb, and I hope as you listen to this one, it makes ya smile.
Janet -- must have exchanged a hundred emails with great help in various PRV and other editing issues that I needed to learn better.  You and Herb haven't just helped me make this song better - you've helped me turn a corner in this recording effort and there's no turning back now.  So thanks to both of you as well as each one of you who listens and offers tips and crits on here.  You're all a tremendous help and I'm deeply grateful.     

The song is currently at the top of my SoundClick list, the direct link is here:
"Didn't Apply To You"
Thanks for checking it out and all comments welcome!
~  John
2012/10/18 11:11:14
Lynn
Hi, John, this is a poignant song to listen to, especially if you've been in that situation.  The mix has a presence to it that made me feel like I was in the room with you as you performed.  I know this may sound crazy, but if you put a pedal steel guitar in this, it could be a monster of a song.  It's still very moving as is.  How fortunate we are to have people on this forum that are so willing to help one another.  You have two of the best with you on this tune.  Well done, amigo.
2012/10/18 11:35:27
JD1813
Lynn thank you so much for listening and the comments.   I will have to look into the pedal steel, I would have never thought to try it.  There is definitely another revision coming up, as  have a couple other ideas I want to try yet.  But overall I am pleased with the progress of the mix.   Ha  but you'll never know how close I came to not even posting this one.  It is difficult to share some things.   But, well I wanted others to hear it too.
2012/10/18 11:45:47
Starise
 Hi John,

 This is a great song  albeit a sad song if a person is in that situation. Your voice has  good tone and fits the song well. The mix is very present.

 If you were looking for minor nits I have a few but nothing major.If you were not looking for nits you can disregard this:

 In a few places the guitar sounded like a midi instrument. Sometimes the way you hit the keys can make a midi guitar sound less midi.  The only other small nit is the drums. If it were me I would likely add more depth to the drums with a plate or small delay to give it the sound of the drums coming back in a space, nothing overly dramatic though. I would  vary the drum midi in places to change up the feel of the drums.Maybe change a few velocity settings at different places to make things sound more human.

 The  symphonic strings sounded great here as did the mix. The help you recieved from a few members has payed off! Keep up the good work!
2012/10/18 12:10:35
JD1813
Starise, yes of course the nits are wanted and needed!   You hit on several things I am already wanting to work on, I just wasn't sure how yet, I know varying velocities is critical and I have done some, but need to go back for more.  I want the guitar to sound as realistic as possible and I know with my limited keyboard playing ability, it's very difficult to get.  Drums, yeah I agree as well.  Will be working these items between now and thru the weekend.  Many thanks for the listen and the comments!   
2012/10/18 13:29:16
notnat
Great lyrics and vocal performance... very good advise above too... 
 
I believe the extra snare drum hits are a little busy and distracting on the choruses, (whatever was wrong, whatever was right)... 

excellent  song writing here...

2012/10/18 13:58:31
JD1813
notnat


Great lyrics and vocal performance... very good advise above too... 
 
I believe the extra snare drum hits are a little busy and distracting on the choruses, (whatever was wrong, whatever was right)... 

excellent  song writing here...


Thanks, Frank!  yeah I'm going around with the beats that i switched to on the chorus; believe it or not I spent an hour last night just flippin' thru beats, looking purposely FOR that one there, and part of me wants that more, upbeat beat...  lol    but, I tend to agree with ya there.    Back to work on it tonight!   I love all the comments so far, and the next revise will be better!      Hey, songwriting is a piece of cake...  just let the women walk all over ya and stomp on the way across.....  hahaha!  The words just come spillin' out!  
2012/10/18 14:27:34
daryl1968
Nice (but sad) song John. I agree that the snare in the chorus is distracting.
2012/10/18 14:40:23
JD1813
Thanks as always Daryl, for giving a listen and the comments!   I can see that drum part in the chorus is going to go - and I am dismayed to realize this morning that I accidentally mixed in a wrong lead vox segment on verse 3, and it's sooo  totally flat and pitchy!  The correct redone segment was muted - UGH!    The perils of mixing at midnight...!  No probs, will be remixing again tonight and will post hopefully a better version tomorrow sometime.   Thanks again!     John
2012/10/19 03:17:13
Bob Oister
Hi, John,
 
This is a really well written and performed, very beautiful song!
 
Excellent, well thought out, emotion filled lyrics, your vocals are fantastic, and the mix sounds nicely textured and very well balanced.
 
Great job on this, nice work, John!
Bob
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