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2014/12/30 20:38:36
Jeff Evans
bapu how close is the vocal mic to you when you record? The clip that Mccue has posted is irrelevant because that room would sound beautiful and yours does not.
 
You need to get the mic about 4 to 5" away with a pop filter in between. Room gone bro!
2014/12/30 20:40:46
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2014/12/30 20:49:10
Jeff Evans
That clip is also irrelevant because of the diffusion going on around the fireplace and I bet it is heavily furnished on the other side too.  The guitar is too loud in that clip too. Could have been recorded better.  The only thing that makes it good is Steve Winwood himself, not the apparent recording technique.
2014/12/30 21:13:08
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2014/12/30 21:21:06
jih64
lol
2014/12/30 21:31:35
Jeff Evans
There getting worse now Mike LOL! Sounds like the camera mic! And she is boring too. You cant beat close mic vocals, end of story.
 
 
bapu just get that mic in close bro!  hey bapu you could always try an SM58 touching the old lips mate! I read a great article by amazing producer Phil Ramone. I think he said Billy Joel often used an SM58 for the vocal takes up close.  You gotta be able to sing though!
2014/12/30 21:34:14
bapu
 
Jeff,
 
I should have been clearer. It's not so much the room (per se) but the ambient noise. I record about 3 feet away from my (supposedly) quiet DAW but I also have other noises (outside traffic) that get into the recording too.
 
I do record at about 4-5" away and I do have a pop filter.
2014/12/30 21:34:26
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2014/12/30 21:44:50
backwoods
The best uke recording surely must be the one with the morbidly obese guy singing "Over the Rainbow" at the beach and also lazing in the surf. How they managed it so seamlessly is a testament to superb mic positioningt in difficult environs and best practice pop filter placement.
2014/12/30 21:47:39
Jeff Evans
bapu well that is interesting. All I can say is things must be loud where you are then. What I have found works well in some situations is using a downward expander setup on the mic signal on the way in preferably. You can set it in such a way as it will drop the gain right down between words and as soon as you make any sound it opens up again. If you are careful about it you can also set the release carefully (faster) and it can end up virtually transparent.
 
What that will do is kill any background room tone and outside noises. Yes the unwanted stuff will still be there when you sing but the signal should mask the noise very well. You are only really noticing the stuff in between your words.
 
Another option is to record as you do and try setting that up over the vocal track after the event.  (in post) Sometimes I have to do this when I am recording relaxation voice overs for clients. They speak really soft in that situation and I have to take measures to quieten down the room tone. (and my space is real quiet!) It usually works well because there is often music under the final thing too and you dont hear it.
 
Be careful sampling the room tone and trying to remove it using noise reduction. You can get into more trouble sometimes doing that.  (vocals can get skewed up)
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