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2012/09/24 11:38:15
Makzimia
Hi Beep, nice shredding :). Dork Metal !!. Good first effort!. Getting into new software in particular is challenging. I get the exhaustion thing, was up at 3:30am today working on songs.. sometime today, I will probably have a poppy nap :).

Tony
2012/09/24 12:00:32
Beepster
Hi, guys. Just woke up from a much needed sleep. Thanks for listening and all the kind words and encouragement. It's a little silly but I kind of got a bit nervous about posting it. This would not have been possible without all the help I've gotten from the forum these past few months. This place is brilliant. Once I get some caffeine in me I'll start typing up the blow by blow on my procedure to hopefully get some input on where I can tweak my techniques.

@synkro... Thanks, man. I kept it short and sweet with my foot on the gas this time. I figured I'd give myself just enough material to dig into the various aspects of recording and producing the style. As far as the Techno vs. Metal thing why not mash them together? I was big industrial fan as a young lad and always liked electronic stuff with some down and dirty guitar crunch. Heck, if you want I could try to metalfy some tracks for you or shoot you some riffs to loop. If it has a beat I can usually get something evil happening. Guitar parts are easy for me. It's everything else that messes me up. Cheers, dude. ;-)

@Jonesey... Thanks, man and yeah I think next to the drums the rhythm guitar parts are the next thing that are lacking. Kind of a combination of issues that I'm looking to remedy (which I'll detail later). There are indeed two distinct rhythm performances. I panned them out to about 10% thinking that would be enough but when (and if) I revisit this I'll keep that in mind. I don't know much about proper mix separation but I'm learning so future endeavors should be a little more presentable (I was trying to go for a nice Slayer type chug but it didn't quite work out). I didn't really dig too much into that kind of thing with this because of the stereo drums. I just couldn't isolate the kit pieces so trying to get everything out of the way of each other was proving very difficult. It was a bad mistake to use the BFD export instead of doing things right in Sonar but I was excited to play with it and that's what went down. Cheers, dude and thanks for listening.

@digi2ns... Thanks. Definitely gotta do something about the rhythm guits. The next electric guitar experiments are gonna involve some fancier input techniques so I'm hoping that will help get rid of the squishy squashy sim sound. If it comes down to it I may just mic my amp with distortion already applied for this kind of stuff but I'm really hoping to get a handle on all this sim business to keep things simple and completely editable as far as FX. Cheers.

@Daryl... Thanks, dude. I'm not sure what I'm gonna do next. I am kind of tempted to stay on the metal train just to get it right but I also want to dig into some acoustic stuff as I have about 40 songs or so I need to record for one of my bands. However I was thinking of recording a metal album at the same time so when I get burnt out on one style I can switch over to another to cleanse my musical palate. Cheer, man and thanks for listening.




2012/09/24 12:12:19
Beepster
@Lynn... Thank you. There probably won't be any vocals for this unless I totally redo the song. At first I was gonna put a silly little yelping blurb at the intro part but just sucked into the music and figured the leads kind of made up for it. It's noce to finally have something up. It's been a long time coming. ;-)

@makzimia... Thanks. The weird thing I find about doing production is you're not doing anything physical but just having your brain in high gear like that drains you. I can spend an entire day screwing around on the internet and not get tired at all. If I sit at my DAW screwing around with stuff I start feeling spent after only a few hours. Not sure what that's all about but I try to take lots of breaks to avoid it. There's gotta be a medical explanation for it. Cheers!
2012/09/24 12:15:22
Bill Jackson [Cakewalk]
Nice and shreddy!  I dig it!
2012/09/24 12:22:27
Beepster
Ahh, Mr.Bill. Thank you. I am glad you enjoyed it. If you hadn't have helped me out with my interleave folly this may not have even ended up here. You rock, dude. :-)
2012/09/24 12:29:02
ProjectM
This is pretty cool! nothing to add regarding the production that hasn't already be mentioned. Some more stereo would be nice.

However, I really liked the tune a lot! Love the melodies and the guitar playing is ace.

Well done
2012/09/24 12:33:39
jamesyoyo
I'm a n00b in regards to digital recording

 
Really? And you have 2867 Cakkwalk posts to something you say you are new to? That makes absolutely no sense, Beep.
 
Guitars were shredding mightily, but the mix is terrible.
 
 
2012/09/24 12:42:34
Beepster
Thanks, ProjectM. ;-)

@james... Yeah, I've been here since May and trying my darndest to absorb as much info as I can so I've probably been a little verbose but I've learned a lot... and I agree the mix could be a lot better but it was my first go. I'm typing up what I did for you guys to pick apart and hopefully nudge me in the right direction. Cheers.
2012/09/24 15:23:10
Wookiee
Nothing I can add to comments


Thanks for sharing 
2012/09/24 16:03:26
synkrotron
Beepster


As far as the Techno vs. Metal thing why not mash them together? I was big industrial fan as a young lad and always liked electronic stuff with some down and dirty guitar crunch. Heck, if you want I could try to metalfy some tracks for you or shoot you some riffs to loop. If it has a beat I can usually get something evil happening.

That sounds like a plan Beep. I'll let you know when I have something for you ;-)
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