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2012/09/27 10:47:35
kev11111111111111
Rus W


Great job! I really saw "slapstick" comedy, silent slapstick comedy going on. I also heard a darker and less comedic version of this (it could certainly turn into one). 

Also, the fact that it's an Authentic Cadence (V7/7b9-i) - just tells you how simple it is from an analysis perspective. I also like the mMaj9 at the end which says the harmonic scale was used (and it is with lots of tunes in minor keys in V7s in them) and being that this chord (as well as the mMaj7) is what I called the "Spy chord."

What in the world? I just hummed this tune: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBmZAg8HxfY (Check the violin solo - 1:04-1:27). The V7-i happens alot here. (Both songs used the V7-i in the thematic - or opening statement. Am-E7-Am: first tune, E-B7-E, second tune (3:04) My favorite game and game theme, btw. btw

With that said, great job again!
Hi Rus
 
It could well get darker this tune I agree,I defo hear the potential !
 
Agreed it is very simple from an anaylsis point of view.When I first starting writing it I was tempted to go into a cycle of 5ths.B7b9,Em7,Am7,D7,G7,F Sharp and then  back to B7.But it started to lose the feel and I wasnt satisified with where it was going.So I thought I'd try to keep the semitone interval ( B to C) going as a motive throughout.The middle is based on Em,with the melody creeping up by a semitone from the 5 th to C,then C sharp,then dropping back to the 5th....so it 'just' holds together :)
 
Minor major 9ths,hey dont get me started man !!! My favorite chord of all time :)
 
I loved the music on the link u gave.Is it yours ? My favorite bit is the brass around 2.38,sounds absolutely huge..
 
Thanks for listening,
 
Kev
 
2012/09/27 10:53:51
drumstixkev
That was WONDERFUL.  A lot is going on in this mix but your separation of the instruments sounds thick and full.  I'm getting a Danny Elfman vibe when it comes to the instrument choice.  Kind of a cross between Nightmare before Christmas meets James Bond.  EXCELLENT piece!

Kev
2012/09/27 11:16:10
kev11111111111111
drumstixkev


That was WONDERFUL.  A lot is going on in this mix but your separation of the instruments sounds thick and full.  I'm getting a Danny Elfman vibe when it comes to the instrument choice.  Kind of a cross between Nightmare before Christmas meets James Bond.  EXCELLENT piece!

Kev

cheers kev
Funnily enough I didnt use any EQ !!  I used mainly panning to seperate the instruments and tried to write the parts so none were stepping on each others toes :-) I compressed the drums and bass together but I dont go heavy any other processing.I wanted to go for a dry mix,the only reverb is on the guitar but thats it...I like this kind of dry mix,makes its a lot more punchier and clearer !
Danny Elfman,James Bond...its all good man :) Thanks for listening pal
 
Kev
 
2012/09/27 11:42:21
evadianepug
I love Danny Elfman's movie tracks.  Oingo Boingo was wierd.  Ahead of its time?  I turn on Sleepy Hollow just to see the beginning of the movie with the coach going by the river in the woods and his phenomenal track playin.  Kev, that's quite a compliment!
2012/09/27 12:05:46
ABeautifulVirus
something about things makes me think of a 007 james bond theme song potential 

digging it very much. :) 
2012/09/27 12:13:34
kev11111111111111
evadianepug


I love Danny Elfman's movie tracks.  Oingo Boingo was wierd.  Ahead of its time?  I turn on Sleepy Hollow just to see the beginning of the movie with the coach going by the river in the woods and his phenomenal track playin.  Kev, that's quite a compliment!

He did Alice in Wonderland ? Yep I just realised I have heard his work on tim burtons films.Quite a compliment aye,thats put a bounce in me stride :-)
 
2012/09/27 12:41:14
Lynn
Wonderful choice of instruments for this madcap piece.  It brought a smile to my face
2012/09/27 12:51:27
kev11111111111111
ABeautifulVirus


something about things makes me think of a 007 james bond theme song potential 

digging it very much. :) 


shaken not stirred :-)
2012/09/27 12:52:36
kev11111111111111
Lynn


 It brought a smile to my face


Now that is nice to hear :-)
2012/09/27 13:36:49
Rus W
kev11111111111111


Rus W


Great job! I really saw "slapstick" comedy, silent slapstick comedy going on. I also heard a darker and less comedic version of this (it could certainly turn into one). 

Also, the fact that it's an Authentic Cadence (V7/7b9-i) - just tells you how simple it is from an analysis perspective. I also like the mMaj9 at the end which says the harmonic scale was used (and it is with lots of tunes in minor keys in V7s in them) and being that this chord (as well as the mMaj7) is what I called the "Spy chord."

What in the world? I just hummed this tune: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBmZAg8HxfY (Check the violin solo - 1:04-1:27). The V7-i happens alot here. (Both songs used the V7-i in the thematic - or opening statement. Am-E7-Am: first tune, E-B7-E, second tune (3:04) My favorite game and game theme, btw. btw

With that said, great job again!
Hi Rus
 
It could well get darker this tune I agree,I defo hear the potential !
 
Agreed it is very simple from an anaylsis point of view.When I first starting writing it I was tempted to go into a cycle of 5ths.B7b9,Em7,Am7,D7,G7,F Sharp and then  back to B7.But it started to lose the feel and I wasnt satisified with where it was going.So I thought I'd try to keep the semitone interval ( B to C) going as a motive throughout.The middle is based on Em,with the melody creeping up by a semitone from the 5 th to C,then C sharp,then dropping back to the 5th....so it 'just' holds together :)
 
Minor major 9ths,hey dont get me started man !!! My favorite chord of all time :)
 
I loved the music on the link u gave.Is it yours ? My favorite bit is the brass around 2.38,sounds absolutely huge..
 
Thanks for listening,
 
Kev
 

Yeah, such a cycle is fine, but the fifth chord sort of kills it. That's why songs "cheat" with the tritone (root) sub. Autumn Leaves as the most concrete example:


(Gm)-Cm7-F7-BbM7-EbM7-Am7b5-D7-Gm. Often the cycle stops on the fourth chord, hit a speed-bump and start again; yet, having the speed bump there makes alot of sense. Not to mention, that such a cycle is the ii-V-I repeated.

Let's say the key's Bb, but C is at the top of the clock: (Flats going right, Sharps going Left)

C = 12:00, F = 1:00 and Bb = 2:00; however, C = ii, F = V, Bb = I

Let's put F @ 12, Bb @ 1 and Eb @ 2 (ii-V-I)

The tritone sub is six hours away: C/F# = C @ 12:00 F# @ 6:00 (Time of day is optional)

While Eb is @ 3:00, A (tritone) would be @ 9:00

So, in the case of AL: (Gm)-Cm7-F7-BbM7-EbM7-Am7b5-D7-Gm.

Noon-1pm-2pm-3pm-4pm-10pm-11pm-Midnight (or 10am-11am-Noon)

Don't get you started! hahaha! In that case, I guess you see my "devotion" to the 7b9/13b9 - really just the b9 interval - (the violin solo used it) - which is a fully diminished seventh when the root is removed. (One teacher described this as a pregnant chord - you heard me right - PREGNANT! Here for yourself: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jl486jbRwUo (The talk of sevenths is around 4:30) I'll quote the 7b9: "It's REALLY pregnant! It's due the next day!" (I so cracked up the first time I heard that!) "If you like the b9th ... and I do!")

As to your question, if that is my tune: I flippin' wish! No, it really isn't though I have tried arranging it. Just not feeling up to it right now nor have I for awhile. I'm still trying to fix (production wise) Blossoms. I do have an additional section not found in the original. I think you'll like it when you hear it. I'm also thinking maybe two versions: Rhythm and Rhythm-less. However, the rhythm-less one will have alot of silence given how I arranged it.

I'll check out your other tracks later. Again, keep up the good work!
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