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2012/09/16 12:54:54
digi2ns
I think the vocals are in line with the pianos volume

The drums are sitting right with the bass but to me sit a little low in vol compared to piano in places.  more noticeable in the beginning. Seems to even out later in the song.

This is on my cans, monitors are acting up right now.  
Nice job really overall.
2012/09/20 21:59:12
blueoneblue
Thanks for the replies.  Yes, Mike I agree the bass seems to come and go, I'll have to check it out.  I still think the vox are too loud, I like them to sit a bit more in the mix but that's probably an eq thing.

Thanks for the comments, Lynn.

Thanks again
Robert Anthony
2012/09/23 09:32:13
paulo
Personally I think the piano is too loud and treads over the vocals and everything else too much. Depends what you are going for I guess, but I always think that if someone is singing you shouldn't have to try to hear the words. Not that I know anything about anything, just saying what I hear. There's a song in there alright and I'm not averse to mournful stuff, but this is harder to listen t than it should be for me.
2012/09/24 21:10:39
blueoneblue
Paulo, thanks for pointing that out.   I didn't even hear it.  Forest and trees thingy,  I guess.  Sometimes I think I should record these things and mix a week later.  After some trouble uploading with soundclick yesterday I put up a new version today with piano about 4 db lower.

Thanks again
Robert Anthony
2012/09/25 20:28:54
evadianepug
Well, the bass seems to wander and too many times too close to the melody.  Make sense?  It seems to me that a bass line that supports the melody more than follow it might help.  IMHO.  Drums seem too, I don't know, weak?  Overall it's in the right direction and my thoughts are subject to personal preference.  I'll listen again later.  Sometimes I get more when I listen again.  It does have a strange feeling to it but I think that's what you are going for.  It's good work.
2012/09/25 21:28:05
Rus W
Nice tune and I do get the effect with the vocal. I'm not sure where the "piano is too wet" is coming from. I'm not saying it isn't the case, but what verb plug did you use?

I'm another who likes reverb, too, but as I improved using it, it's subtle. If anything had definite verb it was the vocal, but given the effect you were going for, although, I would have liked some more dry and a little less wet there.

Total agreement with the bass. Was this part played or written in? Either way, it does need to come up. Same with the drums. The kick was non-existent. I do realize the genre, but say for instance in "Brush Jazz" (I made that up), the kick is audible, despite how softly the drummer is playing.

So, the most obvious thing to me is volume.

I would also recommended doing A/B comparisons for the Wet/Dry knobs.

Other than that, I do enjoy the song with its mood and character. Odd how this is called "Wake Me Up, Please", but it's goal is seemingly to put one to sleep (I do mean this in the nicest way possible).

Reminds me of Mary Poppins who sang, "Stay Awake" and guess what the children did? (What irony!)

Lots of songs benefit from contradicting themselves. It's a very popular technique.
2012/09/25 22:44:14
jayhill
  I agree that the piano is pretty wet. You can always play around more with early reflections on a piano rather than verb to have it sit better. 0 to 25 ms for tone and 25-75 ms for space. Sometimes a nice high shelf (16k) and a low sub bump (22) on the side channel can "phase" a piano (vs pan) into a better spot in the mix.
2012/09/27 21:12:45
blueoneblue
Thanks for the inuput, everyone.  I'll have to listen in a few days, I thought the drums and bass were about at a suitable volume, although I did turn both down a bit on the last mix.  I'm still up in the air reverb wise- I'm using  the standard Calkwalk FX reverb kinda tweaked to sound like an emt plate, Rus. 
 
Jayhill, I'll have to try your ideas, thanks.
 
And yes, the bass works a bit around the melody, I kinda did it on purpose but I'm not sure it works.
 
Rus, the title is meant as a double entendre.  Many (most) of my songs somehow come out a little down and often even as I'm writing them I'm pretty aware of it and will make up joke lyrics, almost just to suss out the melody.  Well I knew this one was dreary and just sang "wake me up please" and realized immediately it was the title-the song essentially being social commentary and the "wake me up please" part meaning "wake me up, all this must be a nightmare."  Of course in real life I'm  not usually that negative but I guess it sort of comes out in the songs.

Thanks again
Robert Anthony
2012/09/27 21:32:16
CLEAN
Robert, really like this, I think this is a great tune - well recorded and played - my only criticism is with the drums - I just don't think they fit the tune that well - just an opinion.

Other than that, I love it.
2012/09/27 21:40:01
Rus W
blueoneblue


Thanks for the inuput, everyone.  I'll have to listen in a few days, I thought the drums and bass were about at a suitable volume, although I did turn both down a bit on the last mix.  I'm still up in the air reverb wise- I'm using  the standard Calkwalk FX reverb kinda tweaked to sound like an emt plate, Rus. 
 
Jayhill, I'll have to try your ideas, thanks.
 
And yes, the bass works a bit around the melody, I kinda did it on purpose but I'm not sure it works.
 
Rus, the title is meant as a double entendre.  Many (most) of my songs somehow come out a little down and often even as I'm writing them I'm pretty aware of it and will make up joke lyrics, almost just to suss out the melody.  Well I knew this one was dreary and just sang "wake me up please" and realized immediately it was the title-the song essentially being social commentary and the "wake me up please" part meaning "wake me up, all this must be a nightmare."  Of course in real life I'm  not usually that negative but I guess it sort of comes out in the songs.

Thanks again
Robert Anthony

I see. Well, ease up on "spinning it" (wink, wink). I got the DE - that's why I mention the contradiction. You don't seem "frightened" at all as evident by singing unless the dreamy effect used is to signify lucidity, which is more frightening when you think about it. Whenever the mood strike. Whatever mood strikes. And you're welcome! :)
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