2014/10/31 01:01:43
jih64
Yeah, well they shouldn't be able to NOT give you 5 seeing as that is what you purchased, but maybe if your purchase went through after the release of 6 they may say that 5 was no longer available or some such thing, but I can't really see how you could loose with a receipt for 5, just depends how hard you want to push :)
 
good luck
2014/10/31 01:30:36
cparmerlee
2:43AM
I am demo'ing Ozone 6, and while I like the GUI a lot, there are some missing things:
1.  Imager scope does not work.  Just "dots" move around at the bottom and right hand side.  No "field image."  This may be a bug?
2.  No gate in the dynamics modules.
3.  No intersample peak detection.
4.  No genre-specific mastering presets (I liked those).
5.  No module presets.
6.  Big increase in CPU usage, but for what? It certainly isn't real-time graphics. Better, more power algorithms?



Well, I am somewhat impressed by the demo, but I haven't used the earlier versions.  One thing that seems really peculiar is you can't Maximize the window.  I have a pair of 26" monitors and the app takes up about half of one monitor and I can't stretch the window or Maximize.  For a brand new GUI, that seems really lame.
2014/10/31 03:29:26
ULTRABRA
Hmmm.  Glad I came back to check this thread before buying.   Izotope can't de daft enough to make Ozone6 "prettier" but with less features than Ozone5 ... which is how it looks reading here.   Have they improved the QUALITY of sound or ..?
2014/10/31 04:12:01
backwoods
 
ArcRex
 
I am demo'ing Ozone 6, and while I like the GUI a lot, there are some missing things:
1.  Imager scope does not work.  Just "dots" move around at the bottom and right hand side.  No "field image."  This may be a bug?
2.  No gate in the dynamics modules.
3.  No intersample peak detection.
4.  No genre-specific mastering presets (I liked those).
5.  No module presets.
6.  Big increase in CPU usage, but for what? It certainly isn't real-time graphics. Better, more power algorithms? Hmm...
 




u need to change input settings for imager. re 2 I think they are trying to make it focus on "mastering" so gate and reverb are goneburger. someone on gearslutz said ISP is still available but hidden in options- can't confirm or deny. presets are available on the advanced ozone I think. 
 
If you can buy Ozone for 199 (probably get an extra 15% off at audiodeluxe et al) then it represents exceptional value for money. IMO
 
 
 
2014/10/31 07:05:06
2:43AM
backwoods
u need to change input settings for imager. 



Where? I can't find any input settings for the meter. I've tested the VST3 and VST2 versions of Ozone, and even the Advanced version (full module and then the individual module), and it does not work.
 
Oh, I found intersample peak detection.  It is known as "True Peak Detection" and there is a "button" underneath the Maximizer's GR meter.  Light this phrase up to turn on "True Peak Detection" to prevent "clipping in the analog domain."  I had to cross-reference Ozone 5 for this.
2014/10/31 08:06:53
clintmartin
jih64
Well I would think not, you can have 5 and 6 together, your circumstance may be different, did you purchase 5 and not receive a download link and serial number for 5 ? You certainly don't have to surrender your 5 license to have 6, I have both 5 and 6 advanced
 
clintmartin
I don't believe you can use 3rd part software there. I believe you can load one of the Ozone 6 modules only. Someone correct me if I'm wrong on that.



Consider yourself corrected :)


Happily. That is a very nice feature to have. Thanks for letting me know.
2014/10/31 09:15:20
clintmartin
3rd part VST can be loaded in the standalone version only, not in your DAW. Another odd choice. It's better than nothing though.
2014/10/31 10:53:23
cparmerlee
backwoods
If you can buy Ozone for 199 (probably get an extra 15% off at audiodeluxe et al) then it represents exceptional value for money. IMO

Everywhere I have looked, the retailers have the same introductory offer that Izotope has at their website: Basic = $199, Advanced = $599.
 
I did trial last night on a track recorded live.  The recording conditions were less than ideal,  It was a big band.  I had a stereo mic in front of the winds, and separate mics for piano, bass and the kick drum.  One of my students was soloing on bass clarinet (which is why we recorded this.  I did the normal mix in Sonar, but I avoided using master bus effects I would normally do: multiband compression and stereo imager.  I used Concrete Limiter just for safety and didn't crank it.  I mixed to about -6DB peak.
 
I took that stereo mix into Ozone.  I found most of the presets didn't really make much difference in this case.  There is a very nice feature in the Ozone 6 GUI that allows you to bypass all the Ozone effects, but Ozone automatically adjusts the gain so that you have the same loudness either way.  In other words, it allows you to listen for qualitative improvements, rather than just thinking the sound is better because it is louder.  That is really powerful.
 
I did find a couple of presets that were a solid improvement.  But the trumpets weren't very present in any version of the mix.  EQ didn't really help much, but the harmonic exciter was able to bring them out nicely.  I went to bed thinking that this resulted in a considerably better product than I would have achieved with my prior methods.  I just listened to it again with fresh ears, and and I like it even better.
 
So I guess my message is to not focus on the individual specs but look at the entire holistic process with the stand-alone app.
 
2014/10/31 11:01:50
Bajan Blue
Guys
Thanks for all the comments re Ozone 6 - I have Ozone 5 plus insight so was thinking of upgrading, at least to 6 basic - but after reading all the comments, don't think I'll be bothering - sounds like a retrograde step to me.
Think I'll spend my "allowance" on that Boz labs delay instead - sounds far more fun!
Now all I've got to do is finish the rebuild on the studio, plug in the computers, but as the studio Computers have been idle awaiting the rebuild  since October last year,  I can see myself spending from now to Christmas downloading upgrades!!
Nigel
 
2014/10/31 11:08:09
stevec
cparmerlee
...There is a very nice feature in the Ozone 6 GUI that allows you to bypass all the Ozone effects, but Ozone automatically adjusts the gain so that you have the same loudness either way.  In other words, it allows you to listen for qualitative improvements, rather than just thinking the sound is better because it is louder.  That is really powerful.
 

 
This is one of the features that still has me somewhat interested -  I like the idea of being able to quickly make those assessments. 
 
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