2014/10/31 16:44:49
stevec
Boydie
Just clarify, Ozone 5 also has the "gain matching" when in bypass and it is a really useful feature
 



Huh....  I've never noticed that one before.   I must look...
2014/10/31 17:23:33
Skyline_UK
clintmartin
3rd part VST can be loaded in the standalone version only, not in your DAW. Another odd choice. It's better than nothing though.


This is truly odd. A software constraint or deliberate?
2014/10/31 17:41:56
cparmerlee
Boydie
I am also really disappointed with Izotope on this "upgrade" and I think they may have shot themselves in the foot a bit

I understand the disappointment.  We expect upgrades to be "what you had before and more".  That's certainly a reasonable expectation.
 
However, I can also understand Izotope's point of view.  The whole concept of "mastering" has been quite vague, really since the end of the vinyl era.  That technology required very specialized skills to get the most and best sound out of the physical limitations of a needle dragging through a groove.
 
In the digital realm, "mastering" has taken on different meanings to different people, and much of what one person calls "mastering", another person includes in his normal mixing process.   On that basis, I definitely see the logic of removing functions that clearly should not be in the mastering phases (reverb and gating).  If you are adding verb at the mastering phase, you are trying to cover something up.
 
And likewise, Steinberg's "mastering" product includes restoration tools.  Again, that really should not be part of mastering.  If you have clicks, pops, and hum in the tracks going to master, that is hopeless.  Izotope quote rightly (imho) puts these into a separate product (RX4), which is brilliant by the way.
 
I am sure that if I had purchased Ozone 5 and was dependent on some of the tools they have removed, I would be unhappy.  But I see why they did it.  They aren't upgrading each and every tool.  They are upgrading the process/workflow of the real mastering job.
2014/10/31 18:31:51
Boydie
Huh....  I've never noticed that one before.   I must look... 
 
Right click on the meters and select "I/O Options" and check the "Automatically match effective gain" - voila!
 
@ cparmerlee
 
They are some very good points and I actually agree with everything you say
 
I just have a slightly bad taste in my mouth from expecting the "Dynamic EQ" and not really seeing any other major improvements - apart from the sexy gui
 
There may be lots of improvements under the hood but if there are I don't think Izotope has done a very good job of telling us - are the existing functions improved over Ozone 5?? - it is not clear
 
2014/10/31 18:31:51
Boydie
Huh....  I've never noticed that one before.   I must look... 
 
Right click on the meters and select "I/O Options" and check the "Automatically match effective gain" - voila!
 
@ cparmerlee
 
They are some very good points and I actually agree with everything you say
 
I just have a slightly bad taste in my mouth from expecting the "Dynamic EQ" and not really seeing any other major improvements - apart from the sexy gui
 
There may be lots of improvements under the hood but if there are I don't think Izotope has done a very good job of telling us - are the existing functions improved over Ozone 5?? - it is not clear
 
2014/10/31 19:08:55
southpaw3473
I knew about gain matching in 5 but it's nice to have a little button right there. 
2014/10/31 19:16:06
backwoods
I upgraded and am happy to finally have a standalone suite! Rea;lly needs full screen mode and other areas do feel like a work in progress- eg adding a new module by default places it behind maximizer which is not ideal.
 
I hope they work at it as it has massive potential IMO. No more meter bridge- just Insight.
2014/10/31 19:33:02
southpaw3473
I love that in standalone you can do edits to the wave like trim and fades. Being able to use 3rd party plugins is really cool. I too wish you could maximize the size but I like the new version overall.
2014/10/31 20:05:06
Boydie
southpaw3473
I knew about gain matching in 5 but it's nice to have a little button right there. 



But once you turn it on in "options" it stays on 
2014/10/31 20:14:58
Jimbo21
Just installed it. Great news you can trim and do fades, as well as gain matching. Up until now I've been using Slate FG-X for the maximizer. It's cool to still be able to use that. I've mostly been using Ozone for stereo imaging and other plugs like FG-X for the rest of the job. After trying this out I may have to rethink my workflow.
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