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  • BEATSCAPE : Is there an equivalent plugin maybe more advanced ? Maschine, Geist, others ..
2014/11/11 13:27:20
peter434
Hello to everybody,
I'm looking for an equivalent program of Beatscape which allows to drag and drop my personal samples in order to trigger them. I think essentially about making drum beats but maybe with more practical and direct easy functions with an integrated quantizer, step and real time sequencer... I mainly think  N.I. Maschine but it suppose to buy the hardware but in the condition is not a "gas plant" and it's easy;
GEIST seems to be a good choice as well ! For those who use it, does worth it : easy, reliable, efficient ? Above all, is there in Geist, the possibility to play the beat in real time on our controller  (with the sound on sound option) ? Or is there only the graphic step sequence available ? I think I've heard about an update that make possible the real time triggering and direct recording in Geist (?) If someone could confirm that !
 
Thank you very much for your attention.
2014/11/11 14:42:07
dubdisciple
I own geist and can say it is unquestionably better at most functions than beatscape. It has a powerful step sequencer but you can use controller to play live and record as you play. It will also sample directly from various sound sources, including from your DAW. The only downsides are a few minor things like not displaying what kit you are playing, occasional sample rate confusion in standalone mode ( may be isolated to me) and lack of recent updates. There has been a hint new version may be coming.
2014/11/11 15:30:30
sharke
+100 for Geist. It's incredibly powerful. You can pretty much do all of the drums and percussion for a song in one instance, and build your arrangement in there too. I find that in a lot of cases its in built effects make it possible to mix the whole thing within Geist without using any additional plugins. You can edit and shape each sample to your heart's content.

And if you're into slicing beats from loops, Geist makes that a breeze too. The program has obviously been designed by people who know the ins and outs of beat creation. While there are some improvements I would make, they aren't show stoppers and I believe Geist is the best drum VST I have ever used. It's a pleasure to work with. There's a lot to learn because it's an incredibly powerful program, but luckily it comes with one of the most well thought out and presented manuals in the business. Can't praise it enough.

Although dub is entirely right about it not displaying the kit you are playing. That's a pain - but I wonder if its due to the fact that as soon as you swap out any of the samples (or otherwise edit them) it's not really that same kit? But I digress.

Oh and the browser is pretty good too - it makes searching for samples easy, and you can favorite folders and also "shortlist" loops and samples for a project as you're browsing.
2014/11/11 15:48:11
dubdisciple
Don't forget it also has a great manual. I'm still scratching the surface of what Geist can do and my biggest obstacle is working out glitches with my MPD26.
2014/11/11 16:24:54
MachineClaw
I would say Geist is a good bet if you can get it on a sale or at a huge discount.
 
Maschine software is great but ya have to buy the hardware to get the software.  Maschine Micro is cheaper and comes with full version of Maschine software.
 
Groove Agent is okay but I would rank it #3.
 
I like Geist for the hard work - splicing samples to create beats, programing, drum sequencing.
 
I like Maschine for sequencing and that you can load a VST plugin inside Maschine to get even more out of the software.  For me Maschine is way easier than Geist.
2014/11/11 17:26:34
peter434
Thank you very much for your very appreciated precisions ! 
I hope Geist will be at a discount price for the next black friday or cyber monday !
Maschine is attractive but obliged to buy the hardware : It's a pity that they don't sell only the software like Arturia spark.
Anyway, thank you again !!
2014/11/11 18:17:56
strikinglyhandsome1
Geist does go on sale often and appears on KVR regularly too.
2014/11/11 18:25:49
peter434
Thanks for the info ! I will watch closely.
2014/11/11 23:03:21
lawajava
Spectrasonics makes Stylus RMX. I can't say enough good things about it. It makes my life on this subject matter sheer bliss.
2014/11/11 23:28:23
mettelus
+1 to the above. I bought Geist this time last year because of inputs from dub and sharke. Geist goes on sale for 99USD fairly regularly, and is definitely worth checking out. Be sure to run the wheels off the trial too. My favorite feature is "spitter" which allows you to pull audio samples from any track in a DAW (I.e. if it can be heard, it can be sampled/sliced as you see fit).

To me, Geist is a software version of Maschine, and I have lost interest in owning more hardware.
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