2014/10/16 15:40:14
Old55
I'm so sorry to hear about your wife's cancer, Dave.  My best wishes to both of you and your family. 
2014/10/16 16:27:40
UbiquitousBubba
Dave, I'm so sorry to hear about your wife's cancer. You and your family remain in my prayers. 
2014/10/16 21:10:34
gswitz
I wanted to try something cheering, but cut it for fear of a backfire.
 
How about a song...
http://stabilitynetwork.blob.core.windows.net/g-tunes/20130614_05_TheMaker.mp3
 
2014/10/17 01:05:18
sharke
Ah Bit man I am so sorry to hear about your wife. I hope you have as much time left with her as is medically possible!
2014/10/17 02:18:35
backwoods
My hopes and prayers are with you and your wife bit flipper. We have a saying here: kia kaha. It means stay strong.

I have had to dealwithdoctors unions over here inNZ and believe me they only care about money too. It's a cookie cutter degree with no real intelligence required but when fully qualified they earn about 350k a year for 50hrs a week and then massive income for overtime. At least u guys can sue them over there.... The knowledge could be codified and moved to some sort of iapp. But then of course it would take a doctor with a degree to press the diagnose button on the iPhone. Bunch of bastardsIMHO.

Keep us up to date on you and your wife's health bitflipper. Kia Kaha.
2014/10/17 07:21:49
gswitz
I don't think drs are bad people, but I'd be open to systemic changes like single payer etc. My father was a Dr and I saw the pain and stress it caused him. I'm grateful to people willing to do the job.

I remember him pointing out that there are plummers in the USA who do better.
2014/10/17 10:11:34
sharke
I'm in two minds about the whole health care system having experienced both the US system and the NHS. On the one hand tax funded healthcare seems like the fairest idea, but on the other hand it's not without its drawbacks. When I got told I had skin cancer and had to have surgery ideally within 6 weeks (preferably a lot less) in order to stop it spreading to my lymph system, I made inquiries back home in the UK as to possible waiting times to have the surgery for free and was told that there was a strong possibility that I'd have to wait longer than that, worst case maybe even double. Not having health insurance at the time I realized it was going to cost a considerable sum in the US, but I didn't want to substantially decrease my chances of survival on an NHS waiting list, so I bit the bullet. When I asked the specialist how soon I could have the surgery, he asked me "when are you next free?" I also found there was quite a bit of wriggle room with the price - when I told the surgeon that I was paying for it out of pocket, he slashed the price for me. I'm not sure how often that happens. I was also given a variety of payment options by the hospital, and they also put my in contact with a cancer charity which helps uninsured people with treatment payments. In the end I decided that since I had the money it would be wrong of me to accept charity, even though I certainly had other plans for that cash  - but in the end, I consider it the best money I ever spent. The quality of treatment here really is second to none in terms of facilities, waiting times etc. It was certainly a far cry from anything I'd ever experienced back home. 
 
On the other hand, I once went into an emergency room in NYC with strep throat and for a 5 minute session with a student doctor, during which he injected my butt with penicillin and told me to be on my way, I was charged almost $1000 (most of which was an "emergency room fee"). So there's that. 
2014/10/17 19:36:01
bitflipper
I got a $40 toothbrush from my last hospital visit. I'm afraid to remove it from its wrapper, lest it drop in value.
2014/10/17 20:38:01
ampfixer
Ya man, break that seal and and that's only a $25 toothbrush.
2014/10/17 20:53:41
yorolpal
I'm pretty sure that anyone who weighs and balances the single payer system used in most modern industrialized nations versus the current American model have to come to the conclusion that single payer is better...if only (and there are many more positive reasons other than this) that you cannot be bankrupted by the single payer model.
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