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  • Twilight Rain (p.3)
2012/08/22 22:49:45
Scottytunes
Love it! Who's Jon Anderson?
2012/08/22 22:56:22
keith
I like the rain... I expected it... and, yes, I was disappointed that you didn't lead in with a couple of minutes of it. And at the start of the second verse keep it longer underneath the instrumental...  I mean who doesn't like the pitter patter of a soft rain storm? :)
2012/08/23 13:04:15
Guitarhacker
I hear the references to Yes and Jon Anderson..... but I also caught some serious CS&N vibe in there too, especially the harmony vocal stuff. 

nice job. and a beautiful tune. This may be my favorite thing from you. 
2012/08/23 13:25:10
ABeautifulVirus
wow. how have i missed this track? friggin incredible. really, one of the coolest and slickest songs i have heard in a while.  vocals are stellar...very Steely Dan and Jon Anderson-esque. this song is a gem. A+ 
2012/08/24 07:57:54
jamesyoyo
Terrific vocals layered perfectly. Well done.
2012/08/24 11:58:10
JD1813
Absolutely gorgeous song, excellent sound on these guitars - a very genuine CS&N kinda sound, only you've got your own stamp on this.  I'd love to know some details about how you process your vocals.  This is truly a great sound and awesome mix.   love it !! 
2012/08/24 15:43:17
batsbrew

Biab-
+++thanks


NotNat
thanks man, thought you might dig the guitar work a bit....

scotty
heheh, you know, i know you do!
he's the lead singer of jethro tull......



;-)





keith
the rain, it's just gotta be there.

i experimented for a long time, with different versions of the RAIN sections....

how long to let it rain before the thunder, where to put the thunder in relation to the opening chords of the song, i let that 2nd section run all the way thru the 2nd verse on one version...
i tried a lot of variations, but ultimately, keeping it short and sweet seemed to be the right way to go with it.
thanks for listening
2012/08/24 15:47:24
batsbrew


guitarhacker
csn, you just can't get away from.
i mean, they just covered so much ground with the 3 part harmony, it's always gonna be a cross connection somewhere.
glad you liked this one, it's a bit different than the other ones.

maybe closer to the 'Moonshine' song......


Virus
thanks a lot for listening, and commenting on this one....

jamesyoyo
thank you james.
the vox are very straightforward, it was just a matter of getting the timing of the words together, that was hard.
i kind of shoot from the hip with these things, making them up as i go along, then going back and trying to recreate them.
LOL
it makes it hard work.... but i like to work that way, keeps a feeling of unknown, of spur of the moment, and of improvisation, which is my thing.

2012/08/24 16:05:11
batsbrew

JD1813
appreciate the kind words...



details of vocal 'processing'

well, it's very straightforward and old fashioned, in terms of production and tracking.


i've got 3 vocal mics i use at different times, a AT4033, a ADK Hamburg, a Shure SM57.

now i have a Shure KSM44 which i use on ALL vocals, but i did not have that when i did this recording.

the lead was the AT4033, the backups were all the ADK Hamburg.

my modest rig:


i have a nice tube mic pre, a A Designs Audio MP-1, that takes the input from the mic.
i run out of it, into the front of a small DBX compressor they no longer make, called a MC-6.
it's design is based on the DBX 160, a rack mount unit i used to use a long time ago...
i particularly like the way this unit colors my voice, so i use it always.

i can't tell you how i set it, because it varies from song to song.
i adjust every parameter by ear, til i get what i want.

then the signal comes out of the MC-6 and either heads directly to my Maudio Audiophile 192 card, using IT's convertors, or i use a ART DPS convertor section, and go into the sound card via SPDIF (digital)

and that's it.

once it's in Sonar, i may put a software compressor on it, or eq it a bit, or add some delay, rarely reverb, and that's it with the processing.

more times than not, i'll double track my lead vocals, and if i'm feeling REALLY work-a-holicky, i'll double track all my backups too!

double tracking is really hard, takes a lot of concentration and really hard listening, and a good bit of punch-in on the 2nd part!!
LOL

i'll create a part, more or less on the fly, and get a performance i really like, then i have to go back, learn that performance, memorize it, and sing it all over again!! matching the words, annunciations, emphasis, sometimes DE-emphasis, and then i'll blend that track in underneath the original.

so really, i don't do hardly any vocal processing.
it's really just capturing performances the old fashioned way.
same way i always worked with tape, only, now the tape is a waveform on a harddrive.

2012/08/27 21:17:12
darylcrowley
The last time I put thunder in a song I got chastized for it.

Early 70s drift, what's not to like.  Very well done as always.  I like it a bunch.

Daryl

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