dubdisciple
Drew., it's just not that serious so you win. I am 100% wrong. Polls have absolutely no value and you are 100% right aboit any opinion you give. Problem solved.

Hmmm maybe we could conduct a poll to see who is right...

dubdisciple
Drew., it's just not that serious so you win. I am 100% wrong. Polls have absolutely no value and you are 100% right aboit any opinion you give. Problem solved.

Ah, come on.
 
It's just a disagreement. We both express our opinions so that they might be considered and evaluated by each other and others and that's that. No big deal.
 
And personally I like to think that's it's always a possibility that we're both 100% wrong.

drewfx1

dubdisciple
Drew., it's just not that serious so you win. I am 100% wrong. Polls have absolutely no value and you are 100% right aboit any opinion you give. Problem solved.

Ah, come on.
 
It's just a disagreement. We both express our opinions so that they might be considered and evaluated by each other and others and that's that. No big deal.
 
And personally I like to think that's it's always a possibility that we're both 100% wrong.

agreed. You don't come off as an irrational person hellbent on being right. I just figired I would drop it so that it doesn't drag on. :)

dubdisciple
agreed. You don't come off as an irrational person hellbent on being right. I just figired I would drop it so that it doesn't drag on. :)

Yeah I think I was getting to the point anyway where on a good day I try to tell myself that:
 
1. I've already made several attempts to get my point across as well as I can.
2. Given that, if it hasn't been embraced by now, then belaboring it endlessly prolly won't help. 
 
 
Besides, I'm sure those of use in the CH could put polls to excellent use in our never ending pursuit of art, philosophy and higher learning in general. 

drewfx1

dubdisciple
agreed. You don't come off as an irrational person hellbent on being right. I just figired I would drop it so that it doesn't drag on. :)

Yeah I think I was getting to the point anyway where on a good day I try to tell myself that:
 
1. I've already made several attempts to get my point across as well as I can.
2. Given that, if it hasn't been embraced by now, then belaboring it endlessly prolly won't help. 
 
 
Besides, I'm sure those of use in the CH could put polls to excellent use in our never ending pursuit of art, philosophy and higher learning in general. 

This resolution of this sub-thread is Exhibit A of why we don't need heavy-handed moderation. Most of the time this forum is self-correcting, and is almost always self-correcting among the regulars.

This may all be fine and well but frankly, I don't much like change unless it is truly needed. The old saying, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it", comes to mind. Then again, I know I have said things before about possibly having mods. Spammers seem to be not so much of a problem anymore and the people here are great. Now and then someone may get over excited about something but it seems to be a rare occurrence.
As far as the software forum and companies like IK posting about new products does not bother me in the least, I like it.
 
I've had problems ever since the "merge" with my biometrics fingerprint scanner. I am talking to egistec support to try and get a solution. Cakewalk forums are now the ONLY site I go to where the scanner icon will NEVER go off screen unless I disable the biometrics. It isn't a major problem, just an aggravation.... due to something I don't understand, but it wasn't a problem before the change and I NEVER had a problem logging into the forum or logging into my Cakewalk account. I remember reading about the reason for the merge but it hasn't really changed anything as far as my online Cakewalk experience except to cause my scanner to become an aggravation.
 
SO... lets be sure to thoroughly explore all the plus and minus scenarios of adding mods to the forums and I guess that is what we are doing, but (and I fully understand that I am a guest here in Cakewalk's house) do we really need more mods here? I was a member of the old HCGF back in the late 2000s, I joined in 2007. IT became the "wild west" with some users making several user accounts, starting arguments with themselves, and adding another identity to support one or the other of their alternate IDs. They would suck people in and then make fun of them. It got so bad that a user used someone's personal information to contact their employer to try and get them fired over something they posted... we are FAR FAR from that here. Just saying...
 
I'll go with whatever people with more sense than I have decide on.
 
Julien
 

Ruben

craigb

Ruben

craigb

Ruben
 If new mods can't ban then how will they eliminate spammers?

We can do it now.  Three flags as a spammer and they're gone.  Any abuse of the process is handled by a Cakewalk mod.  

IINM, this method only removes one offending post at a time - it doesn't stop a spammer from making more posts. Banning does (to a degree).

 
Not true!  On the third flag the poster is banned until the flagged post can be reviewed by a moderator.  Yes, you'd have to flag each spam post three times for it to disappear (and bump another topic over it so it doesn't show in the main index), but the first priority is to get three flags on any spam post to ban the offender (which is usually a bot).

Meh. Still too much effort. Most of us have better things to do (like read the Software forum) than spending our time clicking on spam. Better to let the mods ban spammers - spammer goes away, end of story. Anderton already does this... saves members' time for more creative endeavors.  

I have flagged many stammers. So have others. You don't see them because they are gone by the time you log on. A lot of us do care about the forum. 

Ruben
Meh. Still too much effort. Most of us have better things to do (like read the Software forum) than spending our time clicking on spam. Better to let the mods ban spammers - spammer goes away, end of story.

 
Not end of story. Spammers are relentless to the point where they sometimes are more like denial of service attacks. They often have dynamic IPs so blocking the IP doesn't make any difference. Unfortunately, constant attacks require constant counter-attacks.
 
Vigilant members who flag spam often stop it before the spammer finds there's an open gateway and starts pouring in thousands of messages. Personally, I'm glad these people are willing to make the minimal effort that improves the quality of life for all of us.

When was the last time we had spam?

Spammers are more often than not automated processes (spam bots) and therefore are pretty damn quick. Expecting mods to do the work by themselves is unreasonable unless you expect them to stay awake 24 hours a day on call and do nothing but spam management, that wouldn't really be a mod though, that would be a servant.

We always seem to have spam over long holiday weekends, where the CW employees are gone.  I don't have any problem with someone from the community stepping in over the weekends.  Having it there for a few hours is a lot better than having it there for three days.