2014/09/04 14:07:05
dubdisciple
Fleer
Tell your friend to go Logic too ;)


That might work. I got some relatives to stop flooding me with daily emails trying to save my soul by flooding them with emails recruiting them into another religion. They got the point.
2014/09/04 14:07:07
Dave Modisette
Changing DAWs has helped me but I think a big part of that was having to adjust my approach to mixes and the process of learning that particular DAW led me in directions where I encountered a different level of professional and I had to step up my game a bit.  Having to search for answers to questions and tutorials was very enlightening.
 
That said, I believe that returning to any of my previous DAW products will benefit from this experience.
2014/09/04 14:10:19
dubdisciple
Mod Bod
Changing DAWs has helped me but I think a big part of that was having to adjust my approach to mixes and the process of learning that particular DAW led me in directions where I encountered a different level of professional and I had to step up my game a bit.  Having to search for answers to questions and tutorials was very enlightening.
 
That said, I believe that returning to any of my previous DAW products will benefit from this experience.


I think like Rain, it sounds like you took the opportunity to approach your new DAW like a beginner and got away from the bad workflow habits you were using to get around frustration with previous DAW. I wish that was the case with my friend. His new love is studio one but I expect to hear the gospel of bitwig in about 6 months.
2014/09/04 19:29:19
Jim Roseberry
I like to think of G.A.S. as kind of a "hobby" within the greater interest of all things music.
Nice instruments to me are like a piece of art... and it's fun/interesting to explore new possibilities.
Of course, you can get lost in the process... and never really accomplish anything.  
I think there's a fine balance...
 
 
2014/09/04 20:31:05
rtucker55
Great points Jim,
 
Currently I am not getting anyplace because I don't know which New vst/vsti to start working with. My G.A.S is making Bank of America happy but I'm not sure I am getting as much out of it anymore. I really am getting burnt out on new plugs and currently there isn't anything else out there I even have interest in much less want...  I think I have exceeded that fine balance... 
2014/09/04 22:14:56
bitflipper
Most of us came into this recording stuff from the standpoint of a musician. That, I think, is the source of much of our unrealistic expectations for music software.
 
Remember the first time you held a real Strat in your hands? Compared to your starter guitar from the pawnshop, it was like a seductive woman whispering Play Me! And you really could play things that would have made your fingers bleed on your old guitar.
 
Or, if you're a piano player like me, the first time you sat down at a Steinway concert grand and marveled at how light the action was, and how you could play really quietly or really loud. Your old beat-up upright at home just couldn't do that. If you tried to play it lightly it often made no sound at all.
 
In either case, your next thought was: how on earth am I going to come up with the money for one of these? It didn't even occur to you that "making do" with what you already had was a viable option. 
 
We grew up thinking that expensive instruments were better, that new instruments would inspire creativity and improve our playing. Those beliefs are mostly true.Unfortunately, they don't translate to software. A new EQ or compressor is probably not going to make your mixes sound better. A different DAW will not inspire better compositions. Another synthesizer isn't going to be your ticket to sonic nirvana. Music is all about taking the sounds that are already around you and assembling them into something new. 
 
So why was an image of Pro-Q2 floating over my head when I woke up this morning, accompanied by the smooth voice of Dan Worrall saying "that's all I've got time for in this video"? Like the spirit of Yoda vanishing after only hinting at Luke's true destiny.
2014/09/04 23:04:29
rtucker55
I do remember those days. The first real Guitar I got was a Gibson SG and I played that thing every spare minute I could find. It was the only guitar I had...  Then I wanted to play keyboards so I got a Hammond B3 and I played it every spare minute I had plus more. It was the only keyboard I had... I was a much better player in those days and could squeeze everything I could get out of them.
 
Now I spend more time trying to figure this stuff out than I do playing... Major step backwards.
 
But, You're also right about that Pro-Q2 cause it is Really Sweet. My New goto EQ! 
2014/09/05 10:23:10
MachineClaw
Sonar X1 Pro, Sonar X2 Pro, Sonar X3 Pro, Ableton 8, Ableton 9 Suite, ProTools 10, ProTools 11, Cubase 7.5, Reason 7, FL Studio Signature Bundle.
 
I DON'T HAVE A DAW PROBLEM!!!!!!
 
okay, maybe I do.  But....but one of them HAS to have a "Make Music" button!  I just know it!
 
<<bangs head on desk>> okay, I admit it, I have a problem.  <<get's idea>>HEY maybe there  is a plugin or app to solve this problem!!!!  <<runs off to shop>>
2014/09/05 11:22:05
AT
I never really changed from Cakewalk or had a reason.  Back in the early days of DAWs, I groked it and never really saw a need to change with all the re-learning necessary.  Hell, I still don't know SONAR as well as I should.  I did really like P5, which was a great platform for electronic/loop music and could still record audio.  But Cake let that die, although they did incorporate a lot of the functions into SONAR.
 
And I've pretty much given up on new software effects.  The PC is about as good as it gets and works most of the time.  Soft synths - that is a different matter.  Still, I've got just about all I need and I have all the major synth types - VA, sample, FM, Additive, wavetable and granular.  Like Sonar, I'm still learning Alchemy, which does most of the above all by its lonesome.  I still get a kick out of new sounds/presets, like Heavocity's stuff.  Such is always good for inspiration and new songs.
 
What I do like is new analog hardware - I ain't a guitarist but a new hardware comp or preamp is where I'm putting money these days.  Digital saturation - blah.  Analog is where it is at for me.  My wife thinks I spend too much but I don't question her shoe-buying so we have peace on that front.
 
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2014/09/05 12:40:18
Sidroe
I have worked in Logic, Cubase, and Pro Tools extensively down through the years. When I was introduced to Pro Audio 9 back in the late 90s, Cake sank a hook in me. I have whenever and wherever possible worked with Cakewalk products. I have hung in there all this time and I do not see me jumping ship anytime soon. That being said, the statement I just made is dependent upon the Gibson/Tascam takeover. Time will tell what looms in the future but the last few years have been inspiring working with the X series.
I am, however, messing around with Mixbus 2, lusting for the version with MIDI and 64 bit and it makes me feel like I'm cheating on my wife! LOL!
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