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2014/08/07 13:53:39
Beepster
This is more about the + vs. - format in regards to burners (and their + or - status).
 
Unless of course you mean it simply doesn't matter if the burning software can somehow just do what it needs to.
 
I usually just use the Windows 7 burning utility and it seems to work for the stuff I've done so. I just double checked the original set of system image discs I made for the DAW and I did use DVD+R discs (which correspond to the burner and in retrospect I bought them specifically because the drive is marked as DVD+).
 
So if I were just buying them for the DAW I would buy DVD+R but I would like them to burn on my laptop which says "DVD-Super Multi DL drive" (but is only listed as generic at the moment in Windows which might be because I did a clean Win install).
 
So really it's just a simple matter of knowing whether a DVD-R will burn properly in a DVD+ burner and vice versa.
 
Frankly I'm very annoyed that these little DVD alliances and whatnot did this crap. STANDARDIZE BIZNATCHES!!!
2014/08/07 14:28:07
spacealf
"DVD-Super Multi DL drive" - never heard of it. But again, what program are you using to make the DVDs and can you make one on your laptop with that program (say like Windows 7 or Nero verion 10)? Then it makes no difference, the DVD-R disks will work as long as you make the DVD to be used in all computers. All DVD drives in a sense are generic.
 
But they also may have their own program that makes a disc differently than the normal standard disks that can be made.
If you get up Device Manager in your computer and look at the DVD -drive, sure it will have the model number and what manufacturer probably it is - the designation of it. But also it will have under Properties
 
(Standard CD-ROM drives)
DVD/CD-ROM drives


As device type. Standard is Standard - using Windows Drivers, generic, all of that.
Only thing with DVD drives is it has to be the same Region  - as in 1 for the USA. That can be looked at also and changed but only 5 times total in all. (the first time is set already for the Region you are at in the world).
 
Oh Edit:
"This is more about the + vs. - format in regards to burners (and their + or - status)"
 
Never heard of it, so I do not know about any of that. Do a search perhaps or if you did, e-mail the manufacturer and ask the questions.
??
 
2014/08/07 14:44:50
Beepster
Yup, that's the crux of it. I've formulated a plan anyway just put this to rest and calm the voices in my head. It will at least half work.
2014/08/07 14:49:57
spacealf
Put this in the search engine of the Internet - Google or Startpage whatever)
the + vs. - format in regards to burners (and their + or - status) DVD-Rom drives
 
Pages and pages of links.

http://windowstechies.com...w-XmgcACFQIvaQodIzUAkA

yes, you may have to do some reading and looking at links to actually see what they are about.
 
 
2014/08/07 14:57:00
jamesg1213
I would avoid RW discs completely, as they are unreliable. Of course, someone will be along shortly with facts to disprove this.
2014/08/07 14:58:54
Beepster
I was doing that for hours before posting this. Really it is all extremely vague with no real answers. Honestly I feel embarrassed for asking such a seemingly simple/dumb question but I was going a little bananas and figured someone here MUST have dealt with this before.
 
My current conclusion is that either/or MIGHT work in the improperly matched device but it depends on the burner model. Considering I cannot access the info on my DAWs burner at the moment due to the haxxor I'm just going to stick with my plan of buying - and hope they work on the + burner. If not I'll just have to buy another stack of discs for use specifically with that burner.
 
It's a MASSIVE pain for me to get out to stores so I like to figure stuff like this out before I go out.
 
Sorry to be a crazy dorkwad.
2014/08/07 15:03:29
Beepster
jamesg1213
I would avoid RW discs completely, as they are unreliable. Of course, someone will be along shortly with facts to disprove this.




Yeah... I'll probably just get single burn discs, single layer at 16x.
 
No need for speed and if I buy a spindle then I'll have enough to last a while and/or just use another disc if I get a bad burn. I do like the idea of having the extra space of a dual layer BUT I know those don't play nice with some tasks (like burning a set of System Image discs IIRC).
 
Cheers.
2014/08/07 15:10:20
spacealf
Here it is in a sense (I actually heard about it a long time ago, but do not remember it).
It concerns the way DVD were made (recorded).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD_recordable
 
does not cover all of the phrase up above only:
the + vs. - format in regards to DVD burners
 
 
2014/08/07 15:19:51
spacealf
And when you go to a store, they do not even list that (- or +) anymore, and maybe a DVD-RAM would be different, but anyway, all DVD-R or DVD-RW would be the same anymore.
But the DVD unit in the computer would be more flexible to handle all of it (includes DVD-RAM) whereas most DVD-RW in a computer nowadays handle the usual DVDs made.
 
The laptop I think if I remember handles all of those kind including the DVD-RAM, the newer or other computer may not handle the DVD-RAM, but I fail to see where they are even listed when going to a store anymore.
If you want DVD-RW just pick up DVD-RW, and if you want DVD-R then just pick those up, and make the DVD compatible to be read in all DVD drives.
Standard, standard, standard.
All have been combined probably, but DVD-RAM may still be a question, and no doubt, probably no one uses them anymore if they ever did in the first place.
 
2014/08/07 15:23:38
Beepster
Yeah, I've read that article probably a dozen times over the past few years (half of those times in the past week) as well as all the related articles on Wiki.
 
It (and the others) do not definitively state whether the two types can be burned in either/or type of burner or not. It IS clear that the players (the thingies that one would hook up to their TV) will not reliably playback video on both unless the manufacturer made the device to play both.
 
So the whole issue may simply be that if you want to burn a video disc that can be played on a dedicated DVD player you MUST use the correct type of DVD and burner. For data discs simply use on a computer (which is my usage) it may not matter but that is not clear ANYWHERE I've looked.
 
I have done my homework but I'm either incredibly stupid or the info just isn't out there (which might indicate that it doesn't matter unless you are trying to create a disc that will play in a standalone DVD player).
 
Meh. Makes my head hurt.
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