Hi,
 
I think there is room for what she does.
 
When you look at some of the "beat poets", and some of the things that they are doing, I'm not sure that what she does is that bad. I do "get" that inner freedom, that wants to be "itself", and can not, in any way, shape or form, be anything else or anyone else. So it's kind fruitless and strange that we sit here and point out her faults, and then complain about joe arseholic that uses AUTO TUNE ... instead of singing like Willie Nelson, Robert Wyatt, Johnny Rotten, Neil Young and so many others along the way.
 
There is room, for that "freedom". It teaches you how to use notes better and interpret things ... but you're closing down that avenue, because you are inside a DAW-head, and you think that you have seen and learned it all?
 
I, honestly, find the bashing rather moronic by now!

 
Yoko Ono, which coincidentally, on a Japanese menu means "One egg please".

I went by the number of dislikes on that video not some personal agenda.
And that shows what other people think of her agenda.
 
And there was no Warning label starting off that video.
 

I just don't get her. I believe that people should have the freedom to do as they wish and let's face it any opinion on the arts is about as subjective as it gets, so I wouldn't agree at all that it's moronic to state that her wailing is about as horrific as it gets. That's my and plenty of others subjective opinion, and to be honest, if she cared at all what the naysayers thought, she wouldn't be doing it, the same as many other people in the industry . Some of her words are quite beautiful. But people like beauty and harmony, that's why autotune is more acceptable to the masses than extreme dissonance. I don't think she has any musical talent whatsoever I'm afraid, that is of course if she claims to be one, as I said, I don't get her and let's be brutally honest she is only famous for one reason alone.

Hey she's famous...she's a celebrity...she can get on stage and hold a crowd...nobody threw eggs at her...it looked like some people were getting into it....sort like a car crash, everybody wants to see it.....rubbernecking you know...she may not be able to sing well, but people can now say they saw Yoko Ono in concert...bragging rights I suppose. Her "art" flies right in the face of top talent expectations...She'll probably never get asked to sing on "The Voice", but then again someday they might....just because of her affiliation with the late John Lennon...this may be the last message John and Yoko wanted to put out....."don't worry." 

I think I've mentioned this before, but I once walked past her in the West Village. She had an entourage walking "respectfully" behind her. I recognized her about 10 seconds before we passed, thought "oh look, it's the Ono woman" and was about to look away when I realized she was giving me this ferocious stare, like "Yes...yes it's me...I dare you to say something." It was ridiculous. I mean you run into celebs all the time in New York and it's no big deal, I'm certainly not going to get all starry eyed for Yoko f'in Ono. 
 
Today I was walking into an apartment building and exchanged a pleasant hello with Tom McGowan, the guy who played station manager Kenny on Frasier, as he was coming out. Nice guy, now that made me smile. 

Moshkiae
Hi,
 
I think there is room for what she does.....
I, honestly, find the bashing rather moronic by now!

Perhaps you're right. But the fact is this woman can't sing her way out of a bucket. She never could.
Even John knew that.

By that criteria, anyway, adulation is just as moronic. The only option left would be relative indifference.
 
I am all against personal attacks. But the minute someone walks on a stage to sing, I am going to form an opinion based on his or her performance and abilities, first and foremost.
 
Through this performance, Yoko doesn't have a pleasant voice, her sense of rhythm is inexistent and so is her sense of melody. 
 
Is there room for it? Well, she does it, that's all there is to it. No point in arguing whether she should or shouldn't. But that doesn't mean one can't have his opinion.
 
I admit that if I press mute and watch her, it's actually amusing to see that tiny 70-something lady having such a blast, with a complete lack of inhibition. But that's an entirely different matter.
 
The same could be said of certain patients in psychiatric institutions or people on drugs. Their lack of inhibition can be absolutely admirable. Doesn't automatically mean their artistic output is valuable or has to be spared the critic.

Hi,
 

wizard71 I just don't get her. I believe that people should have the freedom to do as they wish and let's face it any opinion on the arts is about as subjective as it gets, so I wouldn't agree at all that it's moronic to state that her wailing is about as horrific as it gets.

 
A lot of the arts in the late 60's and much of the psychedelia, was not designed to "have a meaning" or be in a certain way or not. THAT FREEDOM, helped develop a lot of music, that we still love dearly!
 
You might even call it ... art for art's sakes!
 
But then, remember Yoko's "big" art piece ... a HUGE WHITE WALL, with nothing on it, except a little black point in it, that the media and everyone else went nuts over it, while Soft Machine and Pink Floyd played on the other side of the room, and Mick Jagger and Brian Jones walked around in their furs!
 
As the wording goes, opposites "clash", but sometimes, they don't. They produce many good things that really bring home a lot, and not only in the arts!
 

wizard71 ... But people like beauty and harmony, that's why autotune is more acceptable to the masses than extreme dissonance.

 
Bingo!
 
Like dissonance has not been for almost 100 years the biggest change in music!
 

wizard71 I don't think she has any musical talent whatsoever I'm afraid, that is of course if she claims to be one, as I said, I don't get her and let's be brutally honest she is only famous for one reason alone.

 
If there is something that the "music" world needs, it is more weirdness and dissonance and less "talent". You don't spend your time here discussing how your child paints or scratches a piece of paper, but you do if that "child" is an adult. I do think that Yoko had an important moment in time, and obviously something between her and John was good and valuable, but in the end, I think that she is taking advantage of it all these days, with one exception. What she did then, is not as scary or weird today as it was then!
 
One last thing ... you have more to learn by playing with someone that does not know music, than you do with the best teacher out there that you are paying a fortune and learn nothing from except another exercise that supposedly makes you better!
 
Why? Easy ... because you have to "slow down" your perception ability, take away your thinking brain, and concentrate on what you are hearing and then reacting to it. But all the majority of folks here can think of, is ... that's horrible "music". She didn't call it "music"! For her, as before, it was, and is, about the moment and the second, and all else is talk.
 

djwayne Hey she's famous...she's a celebrity...she can get on stage and hold a crowd...nobody threw eggs at her...it looked like some people were getting into it....sort like a car crash, everybody wants to see it ... ...

 
The reverse is the one that most people miss ... Misha came through town one day, and some folks went ... who cares about ballet! And 50 years later you find out that this is one of the top dancers in all of the 20th century! Same for Nureyev and Fontayne ... some guy from Russia, and they are considered one of the best pairs in the century.  The arts are ... strange, weird, off their rocker, and tomorrow you will miss one thing or another. But worrying about this or that is stupid ... so Yoko is not your thing, and neither was ballet!
 
(Or any other art! -- but to me, the arts are so parallel, that Yoko makes sense in painting and literature, but not in music! What else is new?)
 
I had a precedent as a kid. I met some folks that were/are bigger than John Lennon and Yoko will ever be! And while I do not consider John and Yoko "lesser", I do think that they have "overdone" their 15 minutes and are not getting repetitive and looking silly and more like geriatric hippies trying one last dance on the titanic! Sorry, Hemingway, Elliott, Huxley will ALWAYS have more pull for me than any of the Beatles ... whether you kiss them or not! And the same for Bapu! Doesn't mean I can not appreciate his effort and his trying to do well in music! But it does not stand up very well to "The Doors of Perception", or "Eyeless in Gaza", for example! Or one of my favorites ... "Prufrock"! The best zen poem ever about the Coffee House.
 
"And the members come and go
thinking of Michelangelo ...
 
It's so us!!!!! It's so CH and a song will never be written about it!
 
END OF STORY.

Well it appears to me she is getting what she wants right here.
 
Or I am suffering the after effects of the nap I just had.