I don't think Paul or Bill "invented" the undo command. In fact they never invented anything! You can thank Tim Paterson, the man they bought (stole) dos from. Just sayin...
Actually it was the boys at Xerox PARC, you know the guys who actually invented the GUI and the mouse.
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soens
Of all the things MS did wrong, there is but one undeniable thing they did right!
 
"UNDO" (or to those too pious to know what a "mouse" is, "ctrl+z") is the smartest tool of all!
 

And then X3 went and broke it..........  
 
IMO the smart tool should be renamed the **%£ing annoying tool. I think that someone upstairs already has that name though........

DeeringAmps
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Actually it was the boys at Xerox PARC, you know the guys who actually invented the GUI and the mouse.
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Now they is some smart tools! (or are they?!)
 
Of course, I never said MS "invented" it. They simply behaved like a (smart) tool and "included" it....
 

Beagle

sharke
How can the smart tool be "set" to something though? It's an all in one affair that changes according to where you're hovering the mouse, is it not? The problem you describe sounds more like an issue with global/PRV snap settings, which to be honest perplexes me sometimes.

sharke - click on the middle mouse button and a menu pops up for your smart tool for you to change between functions.
 
but, yes, it does adapt to where you're working and where you're holding the mouse within the parameters of the current function.
 

Hold on - the HUD which appears when you press the middle mouse button allows you to switch between the smart tool (the star icon on the left) and the function-specific tools (the other 5 icons). Those other icons are not the smart tool. The only way you can change the functionality of the smart tool is by hovering it over different parts of the clip or MIDI note you're working on. You cannot change the function of the smart tool from a menu. That's the whole point of the smart tool - that you can switch functions without having to select them from a menu. 

sharke

Beagle

sharke
How can the smart tool be "set" to something though? It's an all in one affair that changes according to where you're hovering the mouse, is it not? The problem you describe sounds more like an issue with global/PRV snap settings, which to be honest perplexes me sometimes.

sharke - click on the middle mouse button and a menu pops up for your smart tool for you to change between functions.
 
but, yes, it does adapt to where you're working and where you're holding the mouse within the parameters of the current function.
 

Hold on - the HUD which appears when you press the middle mouse button allows you to switch between the smart tool (the star icon on the left) and the function-specific tools (the other 5 icons). Those other icons are not the smart tool. The only way you can change the functionality of the smart tool is by hovering it over different parts of the clip or MIDI note you're working on. You cannot change the function of the smart tool from a menu. That's the whole point of the smart tool - that you can switch functions without having to select them from a menu. 

ok - my bad. 

 
Yeah sorry guys - I didn't make it very clear did I
 
What I was trying to get at was that if you leave cursor set to the Smart Tool, it's a bit of a pain having to double-click every time you want to insert a note in the PRV (I forgot to mention this bit completely).
 
Hence I change it to the 'Draw' Tool which only requires one click, and behaves much as it did in 8.5 and before.
 
When I change back to the Track View, the Draw Tool is still active. What I was suggesting is that the cursor function for each View is remembered.
 
So for example, if I set the Smart Tool in the TV and the Draw Tool in the PRV, SONAR would remember these assigned functions when I switch between the two.
 
Or summat like that.

SteveStrummerUK
 
Yeah sorry guys - I didn't make it very clear did I
 
What I was trying to get at was that if you leave cursor set to the Smart Tool, it's a bit of a pain having to double-click every time you want to insert a note in the PRV (I forgot to mention this bit completely).
 
Hence I change it to the 'Draw' Tool which only requires one click, and behaves much as it did in 8.5 and before.
 
When I change back to the Track View, the Draw Tool is still active. What I was suggesting is that the cursor function for each View is remembered.
 
So for example, if I set the Smart Tool in the TV and the Draw Tool in the PRV, SONAR would remember these assigned functions when I switch between the two.
 
Or summat like that.

You can also single click to draw notes with the smart tool if you hold down the ALT key. 

 
Thanks sharke. The trouble is, I use MIDI so infrequently I've never really bothered to get proficient using it.
 
So all tips and advice are always gratefully received, and much easier (for me) than having to read the manual or watch the tutorials

I think there are just too many smart tools in the FV (Forum View). 
(Where "tools" = "arses" ya know? Ok, you know. Got it. )