2014/07/14 17:04:33
batsbrew
http://www.youtube.com/wa...-V29_M&app=desktop

makes me sad.
when was the last time you actually sat in front of a really decent playback system and listened to good audio?
(and i don't mean home studio monitors....)
2014/07/14 17:08:19
jamesg1213
batsbrew
http://www.youtube.com/wa...-V29_M&app=desktop

makes me sad.
when was the last time you actually sat in front of a really decent playback system and listened to good audio?
(and i don't mean home studio monitors....)




Honestly? Never. Couldn't afford the systems, and people I knew who could had terrible taste in music.
2014/07/14 17:25:40
batsbrew
(how do i say this without coming off like a pr!ck or being condescending..........)
 
so what you are saying is, you do not know what good audio really sounds like?
 
LOL....
this is kinda what the movie is getting at, at this point, i know younger people who have never really listened to anything but lossy format audio, and wouldn't know good audio if it bit them on the @ss.
 
that said, most older folks remember vinyl, 8 track, cassette, cd's that were the norm BEFORE lossy audio came along.
 
2014/07/14 17:39:10
jamesg1213
batsbrew
(how do i say this without coming off like a pr!ck or being condescending..........)
 



Well, you gave it your best shot...
2014/07/14 17:49:40
batsbrew
LOL
 
well, i was not directing that at you, of course...
 
but just in general, to myself and everyone else i know that mostly listens to crappy little mp3's
 
when i want to listen to something new, a new cd like the one i just got (remastered zep), i always setup in front of my yamaha amp,cd player and infinity speakers, and block out enough time for a complete listen.
 
i still find this is one of my favorite things to do...
 
and when i later, hear the same thing in my little ear buds while doing chores or whatever, i always end up saying this sounds like sh!t
2014/07/14 17:58:20
slartabartfast
Well I can sort of remember 8-track and I do not recall it being an audiophile experience. There is enough talk about capturing the emotion of music in this video to make you gag, but I am pretty unclear about how reasonably good lossy compression removes emotion from a recording.
 
It is kind of ironic that the pretty good sounding audio track in this YouTube video is almost certainly not streaming as a full uncompressed format.
2014/07/14 18:07:23
drewfx1
slartabartfast
There is enough talk about capturing the emotion of music in this video to make you gag, but I am pretty unclear about how reasonably good lossy compression removes emotion from a recording.



It doesn't.
 
Most of what is compressed out at higher bit rates is stuff that will never even make it past the inner ear and into the brain.
2014/07/14 18:17:15
spacey
batsbrew
http://www.youtube.com/wa...-V29_M&app=desktop

makes me sad.
when was the last time you actually sat in front of a really decent playback system and listened to good audio?
(and i don't mean home studio monitors....)




I've never known what it's like for somebody to listen to music that doesn't know how to make music.
I remember pointing out things in songs to friends that didn't hear it and often couldn't hear it after it was pointed out...but it didn't make me sad.
 
I personally listen to music on an excellent system everyday.
I've listened to very many excellent sound systems for home, studio, clubs and stadiums.
 
The good thing to me is that there are options. People have more to choose from. As an artist not relying on selling music I don't care what low quality others may enjoy...with anything.
 
In a way it's much like musicians that enjoy poorly crafted instruments...the longer they play the more they learn to recognize details that make big differences...maybe, on both accounts. Then there is always the money issue.
 
Those that do recognize and can't afford the quality...well that's another story and I do have feelings about that.
 
 
 
 
 
2014/07/14 18:21:13
batsbrew
when i play a regular cd thru my 'decent' home system,
and immediately play the same file from an mp3,
i can immediately hear the difference.
 
2014/07/14 18:24:34
batsbrew
slartabartfast
Well I can sort of remember 8-track and I do not recall it being an audiophile experience. There is enough talk about capturing the emotion of music in this video to make you gag, but I am pretty unclear about how reasonably good lossy compression removes emotion from a recording.
 
It is kind of ironic that the pretty good sounding audio track in this YouTube video is almost certainly not streaming as a full uncompressed format.


well, nobody said 8 track was a audiophile platform!
heheh
 
but, the point is about hearing music as it really was captured, versus hearing it thru the majority of playback systems now (meaning the file itself, then the actual playback system, and whether the speakers or earphones are high quality or just mediocre, that kinda of thing)
 
 
there is a 1080 option for the youtube, but if you are listening to it thru computer speakers, then the only worth of it is the spoken message from a slew of pros
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