spacey
( Trilogy is the only way to go for fake bass IMO.)

I tend to just go with real bass for my fake bass for some reason. 
 
Actually it's not really that the basses sound bad on this thing - they just don't respond to my right hand technique the way I expect after playing bass for a few decades.
 
 
I just got finished playing around with some of the EG models. I happen to have one of my 13pin PU's installed on one of my Strats and I installed the GK-3 that came with it on my LP yesterday. So I created a patch tonight that switched between the classic strat model and the LP model and then tried them on both of those guitars. They actually managed to match the sound of the real guitar PU's really nicely - much better than I would have expected.

drewfx1

spacey
( Trilogy is the only way to go for fake bass IMO.)

I tend to just go with real bass for my fake bass for some reason. 
 
I didn't think you did. (I'm not the one that brought up fake bass)
 
Actually it's not really that the basses sound bad on this thing - they just don't respond to my right hand technique the way I expect after playing bass for a few decades.
 
I'm not surprised.  
 
I just got finished playing around with some of the EG models. I happen to have one of my 13pin PU's installed on one of my Strats and I installed the GK-3 that came with it on my LP yesterday. So I created a patch tonight that switched between the classic strat model and the LP model and then tried them on both of those guitars. They actually managed to match the sound of the real guitar PU's really nicely - much better than I would have expected.
 
Even so there's still the lack of player techniques lost.  ( lost with bass -lost with guitar)
So I guess it's down to synth...if it's like most everything else I've read and experienced it's the issue of your picking style getting along with the hex-pup getting any synth sounds you may find of use.

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

spacey
Even so there's still the lack of player techniques lost.  ( lost with bass -lost with guitar)

 
I didn't notice it much with guitar - different picks, finger picking, pick position, scrapes and palm mutes all worked pretty much as expected with the modeled EG's vs. the real PU's. Not always exactly identical, but definitely in the ballpark. With the bass models it wasn't really like that, but I suppose that's also a harder job to do. And I do both some subtle and some rather unorthodox stuff with my picking hand on bass at times too.
 
I certainly don't have much need for guitar emulations, but I think there are a few advantages to having the modeled ones. While I don't think too much of its 12 string emulations compared to real 12 strings, the altered tunings are good and having a B-bender available on any modeled guitar with a few button pushes is cool (if I can just figure out how to use it musically). I recall Jimmy Page tried having one installed on a vintage LP back in the day and it ended up ruining it. Apparently Tele's are more forgiving of have huge amounts of wood routed out of them than LP's are.
 
You can also not just re-amp with this thing, but also "re-guitar" by recording the hex output to 6 tracks and then feeding them back to the unit and processing them later with whatever model, or process each individual string however you want in Sonar. And I just had some fun combining a real LP neck PU with a modeled Ric bridge PU. 
 

 
So I guess it's down to synth...if it's like most everything else I've read and experienced it's the issue of your picking style getting along with the hex-pup getting any synth sounds you may find of use.

Well this is really what I got it for. The WAVE synth and GR-300 models both track really well, and the more ambitious new OSC synth is pretty good too - depending a bit on what you do and how you set it. OTOH, the midi output (over USB) is your typically imperfect guitar synth that can work OK if you have a suitable patch set up and play carefully and deliberately.
 
 
But the bottom line is The Sheltering Sky off King Crimson's Discipline - with Fripp playing a GR-300 - is one of those pieces that will haunt me until the day I die and I'm expecting I should be able to get close to that sound just by tweaking this thing's GR-300 emulation. 

My GR20 is on of the toys I use ALL the time.
 
I hunted out a youtube video...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37SQCAH4If8
 
Looks like a lot of fun. Seems to a have a looper in it too based on the video.
Drew, do you like the looper in it?
 

I apologize for my previous post formatting...used a laptop and it didn't look like that when I posted.
 
Drew from many reviews I've read it's a very cool unit.
In no way would I want to spoil your enjoyment so adding my opinion about any units for guitar are nothing more than my personal opinion....
 
The problem I have with many digital products is that they won't get on the same page.
I do believe that most folks understand the value of that.
 
I don't understand how "they" can know the value of making modifications to units such as yours via computer software ( such as POD's) and don't- not to mention users capabilities of sharing along with many other features.
( Line 6 is kicking Boss's ass just because of that...in case they're to stupid to realize it)
Not that I care...I just don't understand like in the same sense that many things are engineered by idiots - made obvious by people that use "it" in the field and it then becomes obvious that the engineer must not have.
( and then becomes insulting because they find out and do nothing to make it "right")
 
I feel that way with Cakewalk. For whatever their reasons to overlook BIG features that really mean so much to consumers and ignore with no expectations for improvement. One BIG example which is shared with your Boss unit: you go to the trouble (and time) to find the sound, record it and it's not linked to the recording software for recall.
That feature alone almost cost Cakewalk a customer...until I learned that PT lost software control of the Eleven rack...and after working so hard with their newest release, it sucked. (at least Cake made a show with X3 and saved me money and probably throwing another computer in the trash)
That is also a great example of how all these folks selling us this new and improved digital means are screwing everything up by not getting on the same page. I'm sure they have their good reasons...at our cost and frustrations.
 
Unfortunately that seems to be not only in the digital world which I know little about but also in the "real" world...or at least in the US...I mean the people that are "in the know" with most everything from our laws say it's down to the state that it would be easier to completely scratch everything and start over than trying to correct it.
 
I do believe that people are getting dumber everyday AND it's not that I have an attitude- it's the story they are telling me. Maybe we've just reached a state that there are so many people with money to spend on "toys" that silly tricks for silly rabbits is just easier to make a profit from than smart designed tools for specific jobs. ( to date I just feel that the bakers may be the only ones not trying to trick users...for the most part...but since it seems it takes a decade or more to see progressive changes while they milk every little improvement from consumers- I may never live long enough to see all this crap get on the same page.)
 
I did think about not posting this. It's how I look at this and I feel it's a much bigger issue than sound quality files that people listen to...they have a choice...where are the smart specific tools for those of us that aren't looking for "toys"?
Yes, Axe FX 2 but will X3 record the settings so I can open an unfinished project and the file switch the Axe to the settings I worked so hard for? Why not? I know why. It's about milking consumers...not about doing things right from the ground up with all these digital pushers...it's about growing special carrots for all the silly rabbits.
 
Well it's to support a users opinion that I believe is accurate and valid so hell yes I'm hitting post hoping that somebody can shine a light on hope for us that Gibson is going to spend some money to try an correct this mess...even if it means scratching it all and starting over.
 
 
 
 

gswitz
My GR20 is on of the toys I use ALL the time.
 
I hunted out a youtube video...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37SQCAH4If8
 
Looks like a lot of fun. Seems to a have a looper in it too based on the video.
Drew, do you like the looper in it?
 

No looper in in, but I have a Digitech JamMan Stereo looper that I like.

spacey 
The problem I have with many digital products is that they won't get on the same page.
I do believe that most folks understand the value of that.
 
I don't understand how "they" can know the value of making modifications to units such as yours via computer software ( such as POD's) and don't- not to mention users capabilities of sharing along with many other features.
( Line 6 is kicking Boss's ass just because of that...in case they're to stupid to realize it)

It would indeed be nice if they could make all of that work. 

I have an old mono boss looper. It is OK but it could be better.

I'm not crazy about the th2 looper.

I haven't really played with guitar rig looper.