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2014/07/24 11:57:27
cclarry
Only from Esoundz...$49...or FREE if you buy SampleTank 3 from Esoundz

http://www.esoundz.com/de...2&refcode=nl140724
2014/07/24 12:13:17
dubdisciple
Gotta give you credit for being consistent despite your feelings about the company.
2014/07/24 12:41:19
cclarry
Thanx Dub...

not against the product...as I've stated repeatedly...

Just the company practice of raping their long standing existing customers...



2014/07/24 13:44:22
dubdisciple
lol..rape is a strong word!  I know you are a good guy and we all have been pissed off before.  I will never ever use travelocity again no matter what they offer
2014/07/24 14:09:59
cclarry
I don't think it's too strong..many of us spent THOUSANDS of dollars on these
Instruments and expansions....to be left hanging for a 64 bit version so we
could safely continue to use our Invested dollars.   NOPE...iCrap came first...

They announced SampleTank 3 years ago...even with pictures of them "recording the 
samples (which recently resurfaced for THIS itteration of the ST 3 "were hard at work" blah
blah blah.  But then...nothing....a year goes by...nothing...another year goes by....nothing
...another year...iCrap....another year....iCrap....FINALLY they announce it again (with the same
promo pics) ....then promise by the end of year...that comes and goes...then March...that comes
and goes...and then mid year....and FINALLY settle on July 24th!

I would call that RAPE...plain and simple...they let the existing customers languish in 32 bit land,
some could use the Instruments, some couldn't....many that could still had lots of crashes...

Did IK jump to the customers aid and get the product ready....NOPE...they went after the iCrap market
IN MASS HYSTERIA...and left ST in a pile of ruble..they didn't care that the customers were having 
trouble, OR that they had said they were working on it (LIE) and were instead going after Apple tards...

I don't know about you, but I tend to feel that's RAPE....

THEN, because of the backlash because of all this...they go on a GIVE AWAY FRENZY
with a group buy of BUY ONE GET 4 FREE so that they can increase the customer base
for this WAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYY late release...because those of us who got screwed
most likely wouldn't be buying.

THEN they they say it will be a "TIERED PRICING" release based on what you own...there were no
TIERS... it was...if you own ST 2.5XL or Miroslav or TS3 or TW3 you get $X, if you don't you get $X
 
that's not a "TIERED UPGRADE STRUCTURE" based on how much you own...it's just we're gonna soak
everyone for every penny we can get...AND we'll take away ST FREE so that you HAVE TO....HAVE TO
pay us for what we promised you 5 years ago..but left you hanging for....so SUCK IT UP CUPCAKE...

So...I tend to call that RAPE...but, maybe that's just me...

There are many here who KNOW these things....they lived it...



2014/07/24 14:11:27
cclarry
But at .least NOW you know the history and WHY 
they were GIVING THOSE PRODUCTS AWAY recently...
 
 
2014/07/24 14:20:02
cclarry
And please understand...not only did they do this..they offered no apology whatsoever
for it....so that further compounds the "insult to injury" factor...

As a matter of fact we were told "you got what you paid for so shut up about it"...not in 
those particular words...but pretty much the same thing...
2014/07/24 14:41:14
dubdisciple
Larry..i already knew the "history" because you and several others have repeated it often lol.  I just don't see it as being as awful as you do. Agreeing to disagree is what makes America awesome.  I guess I know too many people who have been raped for real to compare money spent on software voluntarily to having someone violate your body.  I'm quite sure if you gave anyone who was made to perform sexual acts against their wishes the choice between that and being upset over the business practices of a software company, they would choose the latter.
 
I have heard variations of the "crime" over and over and I am still trying to grasp what IK did that was so sinister. 
 
Did IK promise a free 64-bit version at the time you purchased?
Did Pro Tools or any of the other big name software products give their new flagship model of program free when they finally got around to going 64-bit ? (I already know that one is no)
In fact, aren't they the ones that cost customers thousands of dollars by finally going 64-bit but making all the old plugins obsolete by insisting on a proprietary format?
Did you get what you paid for?
I also would love to hear how their delay somehow cost you money.  It sounds like you purchased what you paid for.  Yes, IK heavily discounted their older products but I don't see the big deal in that.  Most companies do. 
 
Again, I can't tell you what should or should not make you angry, but please try to understand that not everyone is going to see it as a big deal and share your anger on the issue. When you rant on this topic you tend to label those of us who don't agree as somehow having GAS or selling out to big greedy corporate interests and other possibly insulting buzzwords and catchphrases.  I have posted with you long enough to know that you don't intend to insult so i take it with a grain of salt . IK is probably smaller than a lot of the larger companies I have seen you promote who have done things arguably as bad or worse than IK without bothering to attempt to explain why they did it.  I am the farthest from a GAS shopper.  I have purchased exactly 3 vst plugs in the past two years (Geist, ST3, string studio 2) despite being tempted by sales and the reviews of users here.  The first two were to seriously fill a need and both were at discounted prices.  The last one was a no brainer price and I wanted to support a company that has given me great service despite the fact I got their product dirt cheap.  I'll probably never understand what has you so upset..but that's ok.  Just don't assume we don't know the history.  We just don't see the excat same set of events the way you do.  if everyone saw the exact same set of events exactly the same way, there would not be over 5000 denominations of Chritianity. We would not have the toxic us vs them standoff in politics. Muslims would not be killing each other left and righgt in Iraq now and we would all have consensus about IK Multimedia :). Just skip on buying and let it go...or keep telling us all the history.  Either way, I doubt it sawys peiple one way or another.
 
 
2014/07/24 14:52:15
cclarry
We, as Audio Engineers, Producers, DJ's, or whatever buy Software
as in an investment, and, as such, expect to be supported by the Company.
 
Just about EVERY COMPANY keeps up with technology.

It cost many the inability to USE what they had paid for.....THAT is the issue...
and, had IK been having financial trouble, or had some "legitimate" reason to 
delay the product, that would have made it an entirely different matter...

Did they promise a ST 64 bit....yes...years ago....and there WAS a FREE version
UNTIL this release...that says GREED...plain and simple...

The could have kept ST 3 FREE and allowed us to import our existing instruments
so that we could use them in the 64 bit world...that would have at least somewhat
appeased those who got the "long term" shaft....

Instead, they eliminated it....to FORCE us ( in the event we want to continue to use
what we invested large sums of money into) to pay for it...

See it as you will... you want the product, so that alone will "sway" it your way...

It's all good...
2014/07/24 15:01:24
bigcat
Err that aside, really you only get one piano, some EPS and some Tron junk. Under 400 megs for the lot. I'm thinking 20 bucks is actual value.
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