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  • Reverb: How, when and where are you using it? (p.3)
2015/08/18 01:32:31
Kamikaze
This guy likes three reverbs, one he calls 'The Office'.
https://youtu.be/Q4Hirnibn3M?t=349
 
2015/08/18 12:25:53
Beepster
Update: After letting my ears rest and comparing my test exports of "before and after" some of the verb futzing I did I definitely think whatever I did is working well. I did a few other things too but yeah... steady on ole chap.
 
;-)
 
Also watched a semi decent vid about verb on youtube this morning which was kind of helpful. I gotta laugh at some of the vids about audio production though when the sound on the vid is absulute garbage it fluctuates to the point you either can't hear what's going on or you getting blasted out by the announcer/examples. lulz
2015/08/18 14:37:27
Beepster
tlw
Yes, high-passing a reverb and sending the bass to it works fine. As for the high-pass frequency and slope, that's a matter of an "artistic decision" really. A complex mix with lots of different components is likely to need different treatment to a vocals/guitar/bass/drums blues band or a string quartet.

It really depends on (a) the result you're after and (b) the track/mix in question.

Personally I distinguish between reverb applied to specific instruments/sounds for effect (e.g. spring reverb on a guitar amp or a prominent reverb added to synth swooshes) and a more general "glueing" reverb. The latter being the kind of reverb you get when you record a bunch of instruments/singers in a room, whether that room is a studio, concert hall or a cathedral.

There's more than one way of getting good results is what it comes down to. In some ways working with VSTis or synths is like working with the 70s/80s style almost anechoic "dead" recording rooms. All reverb gets added artificially, but fortunately modern reverbs are far better at sounding convincing than the hardware digital reverbs of 30 years ago. And we can have as many instances of a reverb processor as our cpu and RAM can stand at no extra cost.



I think I'm going to try something with my bass using this premise. I have already hi passed my main reverb bus anyway because it is a thick metal mix and I despise any unncessarily freq buildup in the low end (seriously HATE it). I'm doing the trick of splitting out my bass part (which in this case is a MIDI bass) to two track... one clean, low freq, fat bass track and a second high freq (most of the lows yanked out) with overdrive (in this case through a guitar amp sim).
 
So I think I'm going to try sending the high freq bass track that uses the sim to the main verb bus so the bass sound (which is going through a fake, distorted amp) sounds like it's in the room with everything else while the low freq bass remains totally isolated.
 
Ya?
 
Can't try it just yet (waiting for a phone call so can't put on the noise cancelling cans) but might be a cool experiment.
 
BTW, tlw... you have helped me figure out a TON of crap that is very specific to the type of stuff I do so I just wanted to let you know it is appreciated and you rock in general. 
 
Cheers!!!!
2015/08/21 16:01:54
batsbrew
more delay.
less verb.
 
2015/08/25 15:57:22
Beepster
batsbrew
more delay.
less verb.
 




I think, even though I am liking my meticulously crafted reverb bus scheme (which I have been working on since my last post) that now I'm going to introduce a delay bus (maybe even two).
 
The very short reverb has added the "room" I wanted and I don't want to screw with it but specific elements (most notably the vocals) are still a little dry for my tastes. So I figure I've create a phony baloney recording environment and now I can use the delay more as an effect on top of that. Of course since I'm using sends to busses if one or the other gets to be too much cumulatively I can readjust.
 
It is such a complex mix as it is (just from the sheer amount of tracks) that I'm trying to remain as minimalist as I can for stuff like extra effect busses. Hoping to let the music speak for itself and not cloud shiz too much by trying to get ultra fancy. I am not good enough for that nuttiness yet.
 
Still have some cool tricks in mind and I think it's all sounding decent.
 
I will be posting this soon (with the permission of the composer) so everyone here in the Techniques forum can pick it apart and tell me where I'm going right and/or wrong. Still a lot of work to do though.
 
Cheers.
2015/08/27 14:27:08
sausy1981
 Hi guys, I recently did a series on my 3 reverb set up, it's the same as Fab Duponts but I show how I set it up.
You can check out the 3 vids here www.youtube.com/andrewbyrnemixing
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