2014/07/20 13:48:58
vintagevibe
munmun
vintagevibe
sharkeI also have a very annoying and ongoing problem with Native Instruments effects that reset all of their dials to zero whenever the project starts playback. It's been happening to me for almost 2 years, ever since I bought Komplete, and has even followed me to a brand new machine with a fresh install of everything. Having invested so much in Native Instruments stuff (2 versions of Komplete with upgrades to Ultimate), it's a real pain and means I'm never 100% confident about using the instruments and effects that I want to use. The problem seems to have perplexed the Bakers so far (fingers crossed), and Native Instruments say they have never heard of it (perhaps because the vast majority of their customers use other DAW's).
 

I used to have similar issues with Kontakt and Battery.  If I recall the fix had to do with right clicking on track MIDI controls and checking "disable".




There is a fix for this.  Somewhere in midi settings there is a set controllers to zero box you need to uncheck.  Can someone chime in on this?  Not in front of my DAW right now.




 
It's in Project/MIDI.  That actually may be what he's experiencing.   My problem persisted even when that was checked.
2014/07/20 13:59:44
sharke
vintagevibe
sharkeI also have a very annoying and ongoing problem with Native Instruments effects that reset all of their dials to zero whenever the project starts playback. It's been happening to me for almost 2 years, ever since I bought Komplete, and has even followed me to a brand new machine with a fresh install of everything. Having invested so much in Native Instruments stuff (2 versions of Komplete with upgrades to Ultimate), it's a real pain and means I'm never 100% confident about using the instruments and effects that I want to use. The problem seems to have perplexed the Bakers so far (fingers crossed), and Native Instruments say they have never heard of it (perhaps because the vast majority of their customers use other DAW's).
 

I used to have similar issues with Kontakt and Battery.  If I recall the fix had to do with right clicking on track MIDI controls and checking "disable".




What exactly do you mean by that? The only MIDI track controls I can see that have that option are the pan, volume, chorus & reverb controls, and all of those are set to "disabled" by default anyway. In my case, the problem isn't so much with Kontakt and Battery as it is with NI effects, including Reaktor FX and Guitar Rig. None of them have MIDI input enabled. For example, I've recently been having a problem with an instance of Guitar Rig on a track. All it has in the rack is Psychedelay, and 5 out of 10 times I launch the project, that effect has its controls zeroed. I also use the Resochord effect in Reaktor quite a lot, and that has this ongoing problem whereby all the controls reset to zero when I first hit play when the project's loaded, or even if I just hit W to rewind back to the start of the project. 
2014/07/20 14:00:16
sharke
munmun
vintagevibe
sharkeI also have a very annoying and ongoing problem with Native Instruments effects that reset all of their dials to zero whenever the project starts playback. It's been happening to me for almost 2 years, ever since I bought Komplete, and has even followed me to a brand new machine with a fresh install of everything. Having invested so much in Native Instruments stuff (2 versions of Komplete with upgrades to Ultimate), it's a real pain and means I'm never 100% confident about using the instruments and effects that I want to use. The problem seems to have perplexed the Bakers so far (fingers crossed), and Native Instruments say they have never heard of it (perhaps because the vast majority of their customers use other DAW's).
 

I used to have similar issues with Kontakt and Battery.  If I recall the fix had to do with right clicking on track MIDI controls and checking "disable".




There is a fix for this.  Somewhere in midi settings there is a set controllers to zero box you need to uncheck.  Can someone chime in on this?  Not in front of my DAW right now.




Tried the zero controllers option, it has no effect on this problem. 
2014/07/20 14:12:54
vintagevibe
sharke
vintagevibe
sharkeI also have a very annoying and ongoing problem with Native Instruments effects that reset all of their dials to zero whenever the project starts playback. It's been happening to me for almost 2 years, ever since I bought Komplete, and has even followed me to a brand new machine with a fresh install of everything. Having invested so much in Native Instruments stuff (2 versions of Komplete with upgrades to Ultimate), it's a real pain and means I'm never 100% confident about using the instruments and effects that I want to use. The problem seems to have perplexed the Bakers so far (fingers crossed), and Native Instruments say they have never heard of it (perhaps because the vast majority of their customers use other DAW's).
 

I used to have similar issues with Kontakt and Battery.  If I recall the fix had to do with right clicking on track MIDI controls and checking "disable".




What exactly do you mean by that? The only MIDI track controls I can see that have that option are the pan, volume, chorus & reverb controls, and all of those are set to "disabled" by default anyway. In my case, the problem isn't so much with Kontakt and Battery as it is with NI effects, including Reaktor FX and Guitar Rig. None of them have MIDI input enabled. For example, I've recently been having a problem with an instance of Guitar Rig on a track. All it has in the rack is Psychedelay, and 5 out of 10 times I launch the project, that effect has its controls zeroed. I also use the Resochord effect in Reaktor quite a lot, and that has this ongoing problem whereby all the controls reset to zero when I first hit play when the project's loaded, or even if I just hit W to rewind back to the start of the project. 


Yea it sounds like a different problem than I had.  Patch/Bank change?  Just shooting in the dark.
2014/07/20 15:13:01
dubdisciple
I started with Cubase. At the time the dongle thing was not very stable. In fact I resorted to using the more stable Radium crack over the product I paid for. When it came time to upgrade I chose not to. I ended up using Acid for a few years. This was before every DAW could do what Acid did at the time. I found it great for chopping samples and some forms of EDM but awful for other genres. I ended up with Sonar starting at 7 and have been using it since despite some frustrations. I tried Cubase again last year but found it to be terribly unintuitive, but concede it may just be me being so used to Sonar now. I stick with Sonar now at home and use Logic a lot in the studio.
2014/07/20 15:20:40
Vastman
Wow, shark... Never had a clue! I, like you had perpetual stability issues which also followed me for years. Recently upgraded my power line out to my cottage and its largely disappeared. Even though i had a high quality line conditioner apparently it couldn't handle my flaky connection. I can't believe the difference.

I will hope midi/notation gets a huge upgrade next... The bakers have gotten the rest pretty nice

As to inserting measures, I WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO HIGHLIGHT AREAS, LIKE IN COMPING AND JUST RT CLICK AND HAVE AN OPTION TO ADD, CUT, PASTE, DELETE
MEASURES... Something more elegant and intuitive.

I did watch a number of cubase vids. Which were interesting...but my attempts to try other daws todate (ableton/presonus) has me running back and glad for X..

I am still challenged by the depiction of midi/audio tracks on large kontakt/multi tamberal instruments but I'm sure it's my own ignorance or my brains age which makes such things challenging... If the bakers could come up with a way to revolutionize using these instruments like they did with comping i would b stoked...
2014/07/20 15:46:05
dubdisciple
I suspect notation will not get a lion's share of any overhaul but at the least hope they improve midi. Midi works so mich beyyer in logic for me. I think the best chance for cakewalk getting notation improvements is via acquisition, specifically if Gibson buys notation technology elsewhere and folds it into sonat.
2014/07/20 16:56:05
sharke
vintagevibe
sharke
vintagevibe
sharkeI also have a very annoying and ongoing problem with Native Instruments effects that reset all of their dials to zero whenever the project starts playback. It's been happening to me for almost 2 years, ever since I bought Komplete, and has even followed me to a brand new machine with a fresh install of everything. Having invested so much in Native Instruments stuff (2 versions of Komplete with upgrades to Ultimate), it's a real pain and means I'm never 100% confident about using the instruments and effects that I want to use. The problem seems to have perplexed the Bakers so far (fingers crossed), and Native Instruments say they have never heard of it (perhaps because the vast majority of their customers use other DAW's).
 

I used to have similar issues with Kontakt and Battery.  If I recall the fix had to do with right clicking on track MIDI controls and checking "disable".




What exactly do you mean by that? The only MIDI track controls I can see that have that option are the pan, volume, chorus & reverb controls, and all of those are set to "disabled" by default anyway. In my case, the problem isn't so much with Kontakt and Battery as it is with NI effects, including Reaktor FX and Guitar Rig. None of them have MIDI input enabled. For example, I've recently been having a problem with an instance of Guitar Rig on a track. All it has in the rack is Psychedelay, and 5 out of 10 times I launch the project, that effect has its controls zeroed. I also use the Resochord effect in Reaktor quite a lot, and that has this ongoing problem whereby all the controls reset to zero when I first hit play when the project's loaded, or even if I just hit W to rewind back to the start of the project. 


Yea it sounds like a different problem than I had.  Patch/Bank change?  Just shooting in the dark.




I've never knowingly initiated a patch/bank change myself, and wouldn't know how to see if Sonar had initiated one behind my back. Would this apply to effects though? They don't have MIDI input enabled.
2014/07/20 17:18:31
Kroneborge
Yes, I admit to getting very jealous about automation after watching this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtUjHi-e8lk
 
about 15 mins in their automation tool is just sooo easy for doing LFO's etc in automation and changing them up.
 
Trying to draw them in with our LFO tool sucks by comparison.  
 
2014/07/20 17:43:38
lawajava
sharke
 
Luckily this is just a hobby for me at present. 
 
Another huge problem in Sonar is moving large amounts of data around - inserting measures, deleting measures, that sort of thing. It has never worked properly for me and I've heard a lot of other people say the same thing. When inserting or deleting measures (i.e. empty space), you just want the rest of the project to move left or right accordingly. More often than not, you either get crashes or the automation you've painstakingly constructed doesn't move with the clips (even if you have that selected in the options). Lassoing the whole thing and dragging it manually is also very problematic and very rarely works properly. This for me is one of the biggest disappointments of Sonar. Moving around whole blocks of a composition is a fundamental part of the arrangement process and should work seamlessly and intuitively. It seemed that way when I used Pro Tools, never had a problem. With Sonar it's so problematic that it affects my composition choices. Shall I insert those 8 extra measures I've been thinking of? Better not - I'm likely to go through a whole evening of problems just getting the rest of the project (including automation) to slide along 8 measures. When you're letting the technical limitations of your DAW dictate something so musically fundamental as the arrangement of the song, it's not good.
 
Maybe I'm mad 


sharke - that doesn't sound like your usual chipper self.

Have you tried for arrangement shuffling the simple technique of Select All, then Select By Time (under Edit), then either Cut Special (and Paste Special to open up a bunch of measures (as in paste the chunk you selected 8 measures later than where you started the cut).

Similarly, Select By Time and copy, cut, delete, paste anything (including all tracks and markers and automation) anywhere to suit your right brain's creative inspiration of the moment.

Totally works, flawlessly and surgically. I've never had an issue and it's very easy to do.

Just wondering if this is something you've tried (hoping to get you back in the sweet spot).
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