spacealf
And computer games or music has never been about emotions. Yes, emotions can be a part of it, but actually it is intellect.
Get busy!
 
 
 

Without emotions, then intellect has no value whatsoever.  Therefore, music is all about emotions.  Imagine pursuing gaining intelligence in music and such or even having all the knowledge in the world with no emotions whatsoever--it would be no different than a robot.  Therefore, intelligence alone by itself without emotion has no more significance than nothing at all.  
 
I feel that it's a scientific fact that no amount of intelligence or great things we do in life will ever make up for a lack of pleasure/emotion because in order to have such value towards these things is to have pleasure/emotion in the first place (as pleasure/emotion is what allows us to give emotional value towards these things). So it would be illogical to say that these things have value without pleasure/emotion or that they have greater value than pleasure/emotion. Now if you were to somehow have value towards something with no pleasure/emotion, then this value would be nothing as it is nothing more than a thought. Pleasure/emotion is what gives any notion of value life and without pleasure/emotion, it would be completely dead. Therefore, pleasure/emotion is the only thing that matters and any notion of value is just a thought and nothing more. It is the processes in our own brains that give these things life. Without such a process (which would be the process of experiencing pleasure/emotion in the brain), then they will have no life.

"It don't mean a thing, if it ain't got that swing"
-Duke Ellington

Matt,
 
What James said is the unvarnished truth.
 
Also, the essential quality of video games is that nothing actually happens when you play them- just a whole lot of zeros and ones get moved around in a box. The thought of doing absolutely nothing for hours depresses me.
 
Bert

Hi,
 
I shed a tear every time I see stuff like this. That as a society we're so detached from our inner selves (the veritable "father"), that we are willing to give up a limb or a part of our inner spirit so easily for ... nothing ... for an empty promise ...
 
I don't know, and will forever fight it, how anyone can give their body away in pieces, and lose the one part of themselves that caries you further than any other part. You might think that a dollar or two does, or that getting laid every other night does, but in the end, that's not enough, or you are just an empty sack of nothing, and you might as well give it up, because it ain't worth a nickel!
 
I had a very good friend that was a massive cartoonist, and he had created a character that was being shown on the alternative paper in Santa Barbara, called "Zen Duck" and one day, he decided to quit cartooning, and never drew another one. He was gone a couple of years later. I have always thought that his inner life and spirit was taken away, at that moment, and the cartoons and the humor was excellent, alternative and on the other side of the mirror.
 
So, in a cynical sort of way, go ahead and quit. If you were in it, because it was the only true love and woman you ever found, you would know what I am talking about, but if you were in it because you thought you could pick up another chick easy, then ... whatever ... see you later ... there will be another boobie prize somewhere, I'm sure!
 
Talk about selling your soul to nothing! For me that is insane and the biggest goodbye I have ever seen in my 63 years!

I am not doing Opera music or song or telling a story with it.
I suppose there is emotion in that though.
Very few emotions in other music, unless you are thinking about a vacation spot or love or hate, or something else that takes you away from reality into another realm.
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spacealf
I am not doing Opera music or song or telling a story with it.
I suppose there is emotion in that though.
Very few emotions in other music, unless you are thinking about a vacation spot or love or hate, or something else that takes you away from reality into another realm.
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Apart from sadness, guilt, lust, happiness, loneliness, anger, patriotism, boredom, regret..yeah..very few..

Yeah, I don't understand that statement, either. I guess there are people that don't put their emotions into their music (DEVO?), but for the vast majority, emotion is a huge part of the song. Emotion is what drives the songwriting process for me. Intellect is in there too, as in word selection, etc., but emotion is what makes me put the pen to paper.

You mean the singing perhaps, but not the music part of it, and that is what I took what this subject was about. Not all music is singing either.
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Why would anyone think of on singing as the music in a song?
To me music is music and singing is vocals.
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spacealf
You mean the singing perhaps, but not the music part of it, and that is what I took what this subject was about. Not all music is singing either.
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Why would anyone think of on singing as the music in a song?
To me music is music and singing is vocals.
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Kind of a narrow view you have of music there Alf. Are you saying you've never felt any kind of emotion listening to instrumental music? If so, the great composers of the last 500 years have been wasting their time..
 
Also, there are many examples of vocalizations which are as much 'the music' as any instrument, Plainsong for one.
 
 

Music theory is about science, and putting together frequencies that do not wander all over the place. I fail to see whatever it is you people are trying to convince anyone about. Music was first about frequencies and what sounds pleasant to a human ear.
If you want a non-standard frequency kind of music that wanders all over the place with no defined rules perhaps you may want to look at this kind of frequency recording - but still it has its own rules in the Solfeggio Scale.
And here is such one person:
(and she is also a psychologist)
http://www.youtube.com/user/JezebelDecibel
and I suppose that they call that a kind of music also.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pythagoras
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I am sure that Music Theory in college is not about emotion, as far as I know.
 
Just because a human thinks they impart emotion into music somehow, does not mean that everyone has the same feeling about it.
You can not feel as I feel just because you think you can. Never as then we would not be separate entities. Music is about intervals, and math and all of that. It was not created with emotion except to think first - that will work and sound pleasant.
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The narrow view I think may be yours though.