Some people think that some kind of sensitivity combined with some imagination can create a new kind of intellect.
And then they want to call it emotion.
I think people like that may usually end up in jail, be thought of as an weirdo, or shot, because the Judge decided that some people were looney, but still they ended up serving time from not being what is considered some realm of normal in the end.
The lunatics are on the grass - some kind of Pink Floyd song I verily remember now without listening to it again.
 
 

Here then is an emotional song for yas:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyQPjcF5Tms
 
I doubt if everyone in the world is gonna feel that way though.

 
There are reasons I suppose why bands do not stay together either because of those emotions.
In the music though, perhaps only if you want to feel that way.
 

spacealf
You mean the singing perhaps, but not the music part of it, and that is what I took what this subject was about. Not all music is singing either.
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Why would anyone think of on singing as the music in a song?
To me music is music and singing is vocals.
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I was talking about the song as a whole. I was using the lyrics as only one example. The music is comprised of instruments and vocals. The vocals are sung as a melody, are they not?(rap and death metal excluded) They can also have complex harmonies sung with the melody line. The vocals, most of the time, are sung with emotion. The instruments can be played with this same emotion. I play and sing with feeling. I understand that there's a technical/intellectual aspect to it, but there's also a human/emotional aspect. I went to college for music as well, and know theory. Theory tells us what works and why, but it doesn't teach us that human factor of HOW to play a certain way to evoke a certain feeling. That's something that comes from within. Listen to Corelli's Concerto Grosso in G minor and you can hear it. I can appreciate that you approach music from a strictly intellectual standpoint, and there's nothing wrong with that. Everyone is different.

Someone walked down a street tried perhaps to greet people and decided in the end that "The World Is a Ghetto" and first it took the thought then the emotion of the lyrics and song to come up with it. There was thought first (at least in my opinion - then the emotion) and then the emotion - this world sucks.

And then someone said - No it does not, then a group was started up that called its self "War" and wrote a Classic song, since forgotten by many people.
 

jamesg1213

spacealf
You mean the singing perhaps, but not the music part of it, and that is what I took what this subject was about. Not all music is singing either.
???
 
Why would anyone think of on singing as the music in a song?
To me music is music and singing is vocals.
??
 

Kind of a narrow view you have of music there Alf. Are you saying you've never felt any kind of emotion listening to instrumental music? If so, the great composers of the last 500 years have been wasting their time..
 
Also, there are many examples of vocalizations which are as much 'the music' as any instrument, Plainsong for one.
 
 

I couldn't agree more, James. I listen to a lot of of Renaissance choral music and some of that stuff is as complex as a Bach fugue, all sung acapella-voices only. On the other hand, there are plenty of purely instrumental compositions that have a powerful emotional impact, Ma Vlast and the 1812 Overture  to cite a few.
 
Bert

One that always gets my heart started is the Bruckner #4  -- MAGIC
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETC6yIi00Cc

jamesg1213
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listening to instrumental music? If so, the great composers of the last 500 years have been wasting their time..
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My greatest fight both here and at the PA website. "Fans", that do not know, heard or even bothered looking at music history. All they know is the top ten and the songs they like!
 
Hate saying/seeing that here, as I thought we were more educated than stupid, but at times, seeing that is really scary, specially when you got "singers" that do not do vocals, in the late 60's and early 70's and the "voice" was being considered an "instrument", not just the carrier of some (sometimes) idiotic and silly lyrics that meant nothing to anyone!

Moshkiae
 

My greatest fight both here and at the PA website. "Fans", that do not know, heard or even bothered looking at music history. All they know is the top ten and the songs they like!
 

 
The thing is Pedro, the ONLY person that ever mentions this....is you.
 
I've never, ever seen anyone say that they 'only like top ten' (whatever that is these days), but you keep trotting this out, over and over, as though you want it to be true.
 
I know that that the majority of people who post here have a deep understanding of music and it's history. I read what they write.
 
You seem to want this 'fight' to exist, but you don't actually have any opponents.
 
It's called 'leaning against an open door'.

jamesg1213
It's called 'leaning against an open door'.

There's a song in there James.

http://www.billboard.com/charts/hot-100

http://www.billboard.com/...art-category-rbhip-hop

http://www.billboard.com/charts/blues-albums
 
Yep, and then there is the Blues Festival next weekend.
(The others will still be in a bar - drinking, mainly talking about who knows what! - nothing terribly exciting probably.)
Yep!
 
Fun in the Sun with the Bugs and the Heat!