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2014/06/18 15:14:00
kennywtelejazz
I found this at article at another music  site 
 
How's this for a U Tube Power Play 
http://www.forbes.com/sites/hughmcintyre/2014/06/18/youtube-is-about-to-delete-independent-artists-from-its-site/
 
Kenny
 
 
EDIT here is the u tube indie contract 
 
http://www.digitalmusicnews.com/permalink/2014/06/23/fk-heres-entire-youtube-contract-indies 
2014/06/18 15:38:49
Mesh
That's quite sad for the independant musicians whom have depended on youtube to channel their music.
 
I hope there's alternative site that can be used. I personally found Youtube to be an excellent resource to find a fix/instructional video for "almost" anything. 
2014/06/18 16:16:22
sharke
Doesn't worry me in the slightest. They're just opening a new gap in the market which will be filled with something else. I would put money on plans being drawn up for a new freewheeling video streaming service as we speak.
2014/06/18 17:44:50
slartabartfast
Actually the article is primarily focused, not on independent artists, but on independent labels. If they feel confident that they can screw indie record companies, then independent artists posting their own stuff are likely to just disappear from view. Looks like the old model of sieving new talent through the recording industry is having a revival on the internet. When you try to monetize music a gazillion unknown artists just add clutter to the system without producing much revenue for the amount of work and risk it takes to deal with them.
2014/06/18 19:29:42
jbow
Great... sigh.
 
J
2014/06/18 23:58:42
kennywtelejazz
Mesh
That's quite sad for the independant musicians whom have depended on youtube to channel their music.
 
I hope there's alternative site that can be used. I personally found Youtube to be an excellent resource to find a fix/instructional video for "almost" anything. 




+1 
 
sharke
Doesn't worry me in the slightest. They're just opening a new gap in the market which will be filled with something else. I would put money on plans being drawn up for a new freewheeling video streaming service as we speak.



I'm not sure what they are doing and how it all will play out  ……admittedly ,  I am concerned  
 
slartabartfast
Actually the article is primarily focused, not on independent artists, but on independent labels. If they feel confident that they can screw indie record companies, then independent artists posting their own stuff are likely to just disappear from view. Looks like the old model of sieving new talent through the recording industry is having a revival on the internet. When you try to monetize music a gazillion unknown artists just add clutter to the system without producing much revenue for the amount of work and risk it takes to deal with them.




that's the general vibe I'm getting 
 
jbow
Great... sigh.
 
J




Yeah jbow , I feel you ….that was my initial reaction when I ran across this article 
 
Kenny
 
 
2014/06/19 01:26:09
Rain
Sucks. 
 
Didn't Yahoo just announce that they were about to launch their own version of YouTube?
 
I don't really use YouTube to find new music - and, anyway, in my case, more often than not, "new music" is just old music that I hadn't gotten into just yet. (Like my newly discovered passion for Southern Rock - man, that stuff definitely stroke a chord w/ me!)
 
Anyway,  iTunes is usually my first option - if that fails, I google, uh, no, I Bing videos.
 
Back in the days, I used to read the thanks list in records - that's how we heard about new/unknown bands where I lived. Then we'd take a chance and order music by those bands without having an option to audition before. 
 
I've somewhat adapted that method - a lot of the new music I discover these days I find through the "associated acts" on the wiki of bands that I like. But now, I can audition before I buy.
 
 
2014/06/19 01:36:21
sharke
The best thing about YouTube IMO was always the audio quality. I could never understand the popularity of Soundcloud, for example, which streams music at a very lame 128kbps as MP3. YouTube now streams audio at 192kbps, provided the uploaded video has that quality available. And it's AAC encoded, which is vastly superior to MP3. Prior to 2014, the bitrate at which YouTube audio was streamed was dependent on the video quality selected, with 192kbps only being available at 720p or higher. But now they're streaming at 192kbps AAC regardless of the video quality selected. This makes sense of course because video has a higher bandwidth requirement than audio. 
 
So I have no idea why so many people use Soundcloud to showcase their music. I've used it for short musical examples in forum posts before, but I don't think I would upload finished tracks there. You'd think they would increase their streaming quality given that music is their sole function. 
 
It can only be a matter of time before someone launches something along the lines of YouTube and Soundcloud, for musicians, with a 320kbps streaming rate. 
2014/06/19 02:44:09
Rain
sharke
The best thing about YouTube IMO was always the audio quality. I could never understand the popularity of Soundcloud, for example, which streams music at a very lame 128kbps as MP3. YouTube now streams audio at 192kbps, provided the uploaded video has that quality available. And it's AAC encoded, which is vastly superior to MP3. Prior to 2014, the bitrate at which YouTube audio was streamed was dependent on the video quality selected, with 192kbps only being available at 720p or higher. But now they're streaming at 192kbps AAC regardless of the video quality selected. This makes sense of course because video has a higher bandwidth requirement than audio. 
 
So I have no idea why so many people use Soundcloud to showcase their music. I've used it for short musical examples in forum posts before, but I don't think I would upload finished tracks there. You'd think they would increase their streaming quality given that music is their sole function. 
 
It can only be a matter of time before someone launches something along the lines of YouTube and Soundcloud, for musicians, with a 320kbps streaming rate. 




There must be something I'm doing wrong because my YouTube vids sound pretty bad compared to the stuff I've uploaded on Facebook. Same source file has HD option on FB - on YouTube, it's compressed w/o me having an option.. So if I had a choice, FB would win. :/
2014/06/19 03:04:56
spacealf
There are more places than the usual places. Have to look them all up.
https://vimeo.com/
http://bandcamp.com/
http://www.billboard.com/charts/hot-100
http://www.billboard.com/...id-chart-category-rock
But some I have not got anymore, and making videos is a pain somewhat.
 
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