How many outs can you route to? How many are free? In Sonar you can route to any out. If you have an analog stereo out to your headphone distribution you have one stereo feed and no seperation if you want to feed multiple muscians at once. How many musicians are you routing too? If you're seperating per musician-channel where he's playing, you'll need that many outs. 8 channel ADAT out to ADAT in headphone amp or mixer? How ever many people you want to feed a seperate signal to, either digital or analog, you'll need that many outs-mono-times two for stereo. I don't why you'd want to seperate feeds all the time anyway.???

I dont think sonar does separate MIXES... of course, currently I am a few versions behind.
Yes, you can route signal to any output that you want - for example track 1 can go to Output 8
or submix A can go to outputs 3&4... but I don't think you can have 5 individual mixes of the same instruments going on in Sonar at the same time whether routed to separate outputs or not?

Is that what you are wanting to do?

On my 8 channel i/o unit here at home I can create a send on any input channel and assign that to any bus. Any bus can be sent to any hardware output - in my case 8. So, I could create 6 separate mono feeds (or 3 stereo headphone outputs) and still have my monitor master going to my speakers. And there is a separate stereo digital out I could jerry-rig if needed.

I suppose the V-700 works the same way, plus all the digital in out. I don't know how the headphone outputs work, but I suppose they are in parallel w/ a hardware output rahter than separate bus (or Cake would have made a bullet point about this). There are 8 analog outputs. Plus the spdif out, plus ADAT out. They should show up in SONAR (a lá Brandon) as physical outputs. The TC stuff uses 2 of the 8 channels of ADAT as I remember. But you could get a cheap ADAT ADA (the beringer unit comes to mind) and use that for 8 more physical analog outputs. That gives you 14 outputs for headphone submixes plus a master for the control room. Of course, working at 88.1 or 96 gives you half the ADAT i/os. But I've never found it necessary to make 7 headphone mixes. That is a pain even on a big mixer. The drummer, the singer (if they are doing a real take not scratch) and one or two for the rest of the rhythm section. But if each musician wants a separate feed with "more of me" and they want to pay for the set up time and for me to keep tweaking it, that is fine, too.

If you need more outs, add a second V700 i/o - doubling the number and all running through USB (according to Cake). But the v700 ain't itself a replacement for a large 32X8X8 mixing board and separate audio interface to match. SONAR replaces the board and patching - just be able to run it at low latency.

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You can create multiple headphone mixes with SONAR and the VS-700, but the routing is all done inside SONAR. Here's an example for setting up separate headphone mixes for a singer, a drummer, and a guitar player ...

- In SONAR create three new busses and label them Vocal Cans, Drummer Cans, and Guitar Cans.

- Route each of these busses to a seperate hardware output.

- Next create sends from the Vocal track to each of the headphone mix buses and adjust send levels as the musician requires.

- Repeat creating sends from each track to the busses as required.

HTH

You can create additional sends...awesome! Thanks Seth.
That may already be well known but my software is a bit behind..... plan to upgrade with this VStudio package

Xpersx,

Yep, three is no limit of sends that a track or bus can have. This means you can create as many headphone mixes as you want, and you can make then as complex as you want. Of course you will still need a headphone distribution system if you want to use more than two seperate headphone mixes, but you can send all those mixes out the seperate hardware outs to that system so that everyone can get their own mix.

That's awesome that you will be upgrading to the VS-700. I checked out your website and it looks like a perfect system for your studio. I wish you many happy recordings with it!

Seth Perlstein [Cakewalk
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You can create multiple headphone mixes with SONAR and the VS-700, but the routing is all done inside SONAR. Here's an example for setting up separate headphone mixes for a singer, a drummer, and a guitar player ...

- In SONAR create three new busses and label them Vocal Cans, Drummer Cans, and Guitar Cans.

- Route each of these busses to a seperate hardware output.

- Next create sends from the Vocal track to each of the headphone mix buses and adjust send levels as the musician requires.

- Repeat creating sends from each track to the busses as required.

HTH

This is awesome, was looking for this information, can this setup be saved for later use in other projects?

Yes, you can use track templates to save the whole setup or parts of it; track templates also save the busses which tracks feed into. Missing busses are created upon import of track templates. You only got to figure out which parts of your set-up you are going to re-use in various ways and create smart templates.

BTW, press and hold ALT while clicking the bus also selects all tracks that feed the bus (nice option to create a 'bus template').

Mind you, head phone mixes through Sonar are subject to latency. No problem if you use a fast DAW which can do it at low buffer settings. I prefer to do direct monitoring via the Octa-Capture, VS-700 and ADAT I/O for the tracks I record. You need separate template files for each interface, though, so set-up becomes more of 'damn, how did that work again ...???' thing

Nice that's good, thanks FreeFly 

"Mind you, head phone mixes through Sonar are subject to latency. No problem if you use a fast DAW which can do it at low buffer settings. I prefer to do direct monitoring via the Octa-Capture, VS-700 and ADAT I/O for the tracks I record"




This is exactly this problem of latency ! Maybe I'm out of the point, but in the VS 700 direct Mixer, it seems that we cannot configure any auxiliar routing  and it's a pity.