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  • "VS-700 don't respond to settings under: "Control Strips Visible in" in prefs." - solved?
2013/01/16 09:52:43
Loptec

Just before the release of the X2a I got mails about problem reports I'd sent in and now was solved. Among others I got this mail:

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CWBRN-[unimportant], VS-700 don't respond to settings under: "Control Strips Visible in" in prefs.
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Hello Samuel L,
The status of your problem report has updated to "Fixed" with the following notes:


This issue has been resolved by our development team. We do not have any additional details regarding this exact fix other then that it has been resolved. Please note this is an automated message.
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This still doesn't work for me, however.. =/
I like having just audio-tracks in the console view and want just these represented on my VS-700 and because of this bug, this is not possible.
Is this something that just affects me and my setup, or can somone confirm this behavior?

2013/01/16 14:16:12
Rob[at]Sound-Rehab
Hiding strips still doesn't work; it causes all sorts of weird behaviour. I filed 2 problem reports regarding these issues right after X2a came (see http://forum.cakewalk.com/fb.ashx?m=2742278)

2013/01/18 10:51:04
Loptec

yeah..
one would think that the option to show either just console view, just track view or both on the control surface should be there only because you might want to hide and adapt the view to use on the surface...

i see no other use for this.. =/
2013/01/20 12:30:26
John T
You can do it, but if you do, the channel strip section starts mapping to the wrong channel. So yeah, it's currently basically an unusable feature. The state they've left this thing in is shocking, and the ongoing can't-be-bothered-addressing-customer-issues attitude is a disgrace. I'm mixing something today, and really, the console implementation is screwed up in so many ways it's laughable.
2013/01/20 12:32:44
John T
What's probably confusing you is that it's only ever worked when you use the track manager to show and hide strips. It's never worked when you use the Console View strips menu to show and hide certain types of tracks. I was told this was intended behaviour when I reported it. Makes no sense to me, but hey, I'm just the customer, what do I know.
2013/01/22 11:45:27
Loptec

ah ok...
well that explains the behavior I guess..

so it's not a bug. just a bad design choise from cakewalk...

soo... since it's possible to right click on a track/buses in console view and choose "hide" there as well, just as in track view... maybe this could be an option to get what I want (hide all MIDI-tracks in console view)

time consuming to have to do this for every track though, but well.. better than nothing
2013/01/22 15:58:04
John T
You can do it via the track manager dialog, though this is not without weird behaviour. Click on the console view, and press M. This will bring up the track manager and you can select multiple tracks to show or hide. Except sometimes it will being up the track view manager instead of the console view manager, and there's no visual difference between them, so you won't know until you've accidentally hidden tracks in the wrong view. Doesn't always happen, though, so hey, you might get lucky.
2013/01/22 15:58:27
John T
Obviously, none of this is worth fixing or even commenting on.
2013/01/22 17:20:11
Rob[at]Sound-Rehab
Guys, you got me really confused now.

So you say it is supposed to be working only if you hide channels in track view and set the 'preferences/control strips visible in' to 'track view' ?
or is this also causing the weird behaviour for ACT control of strips to the right of hidden strips?
2013/01/22 18:16:00
John T
Well, "control strips visible in" chooses which view the v700 bases its track arrangement on. I have that set to "Console view", because I want to see all tracks in track view, but hide some in console view, and have the v700 reflect that. That does indeed cause all kinds of wackiness regarding which channel the Channel Strip knobs map to. The whole implementation is a bit strange, but it at least used to *work*.
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