• Software
  • Ez Drummer 2 - Impressions? (p.18)
2014/05/16 08:11:26
cclarry
3dmus
cclarry
montezuma
Hmmm so it seems that due to technical issues EZD2 is unable to sync with your DAW tempo. I must have watched a misleading marketing video then from Toontrack because in that video the guy recorded guitar...then played back that guitar track in his DAW and used Tap to Find in EZD2. He must have hit play in his DAW exactly on the click track in EZD2. Because the click track in EZD2 won't synch with your DAW...you'll have the click from EZD2 clicking away way off sync with your DAW when you have its click/ metronome enabled. So the only way to get them sycned is to hit play on your DAW right on...bang on the click you hear in EZD2...a terribly unreliable way to go.
 
The video I saw showed the guy just Tapping to Find right over the top of his guitar track. So how did he sync up the EZD2 metronome and his DAW metronome??
 
No doubt I'm missing something
 
Although someone did just note this on the Toontrack site linked earlier:
 
Funny, It's working now.
Perhaps there is a certain sequence that needs to take place. ???
If I start the playback of my Instrument (MIDI) track and then click on the play arrow in the T2F window, they DO sync up.
Sorry about that.



Ok...I brought EZ2 into a host that I had changed the default tempo on and it automatically synced.
There was also a "Follow Host" button down in the transport section that does not appear when
using it in stand alone...so that could be the issue, make sure the tempo is set correctly in the host
and EZ2 should follow it...



The issue is not that the temp itself doesn't synch (it does, as long as the follow host button has been pushed), but that the DAW timeline is not necessarily in synch with the metronome in EZ2; i.e. it could be that the "1" of the metronome is on the 2nd beat of the DAW transport/timeline. It won't drift or anything (as the tempos are equal), but it's not in perfect synch (the one is not the one). I tested this in 2 hosts....but maybe I'm overlooking something
 
 



Might very well be the case...maybe this will get addressed, along with the "routing-Samplerate" issue in the next update....
2014/05/16 10:32:22
Dave Modisette
jmasno5
I sent this to Toontrack this morning:
"Superior Drummer 2.0 is not finding my EZ Drummer 2 (Modern and Vintage) Kits or the Pop Rock kit automatically. I navigated to the sound libraries but now it asked me to authorize even though they are and play fine in my EZ Drummer 2 program. Something is not right."
 
Any fellow Sonarians in the same boat?  Also, is there a was to search only this thread? 
 
Toontrack responed:
 
Toontrack Support (Toontrack)
May 14 10:40 AM
"The EZdrummer 2 sound libraries cannot yet be used in Superior 2.0. There will be a Superior software update released to address this issue, however we do not have the ETA for this update."


Yes, this is something that was noted in the webcasts prior to the release of EZdrummer 2.  They said that an update for Superior Drummer would be coming out to address this issue.  As soon as it's ready, your issues will be taken care of.
 
2014/05/16 12:13:31
montezuma



Hmm, yes, I have got the same issue....not that it is important to my workflow, but indeed I can't get the metronome to reliably synch with the host (sure the tempo synchs, but the measure-start doesn't automatically)




Yeah I need to be able to play my song in my DAW while I Tap to Find...if I can't tap to the sound of my song that leaves me with having to tap to the song in my head...which is nuts...tapping to silence...to a click track...yeah you can do it...but how much better to tap to your song as you're listening to it?
2014/05/16 19:33:52
Dave Modisette
montezuma
 
Yeah I need to be able to play my song in my DAW while I Tap to Find...if I can't tap to the sound of my song that leaves me with having to tap to the song in my head...which is nuts...tapping to silence...to a click track...yeah you can do it...but how much better to tap to your song as you're listening to it?


I don't think you are likely to get the Tap to Find Metronome to sync with the Host tempo unless you hit the button at the right time.  It's my opinion that the Tap to Find click is working "as intended."  I base my reason on the presence of a Tempo knob in the vicinity of the Tap to Find window.  If the TTF click was supposed to sync with the host tempo there would be no adjustment for guys like me who can't play as fast as we might like and be accurate.

That said, I think you should continue to state your case for the need for syncing the Tap to Find click and post a feature request for it.  I know FRs work because I've been hammering on the need for a search engine for drum grooves since EZdrummer first came out.  I also posted requests for an EZ keyboards program, so I know they listen to suggestions.
2014/05/16 22:00:27
montezuma
It just seems a bit strange to tap to a click/ metronome without being able to hear your song. Probably just me but strikes me as a lot more accurate, not to mention easy, to be able to tap as you listen to your song. Tapping to a click/ metronome is a bit like feeling around in the dark.

Not all of us 'have the music in our heads maaan'. I'm a grafter...sub par on every level. I need all the help I can get!
 
By the way what's the go with the tempo knob in the vicinity of the Tap to Find panel?? There's no values...why wouldn't they have values/ bpm?
 
 
2014/06/25 09:46:04
jmasno5
Last word -
EZD2 has been great. Building a song has been cut in half the amount of time. When I'm in my studio with an idea nothing sucks the life out of it like searching for drum patterens even though it was better than the old days when I step timed the midi notes for each pattern.
Currently my work flow is to build the song in standalone mode. When I reopen EZd2 in Sonar I import the patterns one at a time otherwise you get this real long midi block. The other reason is that you can open the shorter patterns in the Step Sequencer if need be. And yes, you can leave the patterns in EZd2 and sync with Sonar with the Follow Host feature although you have to be on the same measure in both programs. Once I am happy, I open Superior Drummer 2. I install the same drum kit. SD2 offers much more control for EZd2 EZX kits. Mainly the bleeds. The 16bit EZX kits sound great too! I have so many plugins that try to dirty up the sound with vinage era noise that I can't see me having to use 24bit drums. I go for the smooth sound and try to kick out the digital sound. Sometimes I let SD2 render the drum tracks but if the song isn't too big Sonar does fine work of it too.
© 2026 APG vNext Commercial Version 5.1

Use My Existing Forum Account

Use My Social Media Account