• Coffee House
  • The Quarterly "When I finally fix/upgrade my strat" thread... (p.2)
2014/05/13 08:01:51
spacey
Rain
 
The neck is in a relatively ok shape, despite a couple of little spots where it's dented. But there is one annoying spot on the back where there's a relatively big hole in the finish. The wood is okay, though...
 

 

 
It's a big hole as you say, because of that thick finish and many players don't like that - especially after
they've played an oiled neck. I prefer oiled.
That's an easy fix. Sand off the playing area and a light coat or two of True-Oil.
 
A "rule of thumb" I've heard many luthiers make is that a bolt-on neck fit is right when it will lift the
body (with no hardware) NOT bolted. I'm not saying that US Fender Strats fit that good but if yours is a good
fit I would sure keep that neck and body together.
That body can be repaired easily by somebody that knows how...like your friend I imagine.
 
drewfx1
Trust me - the biggest problem you might run into is that it comes out too good.
 
This can lead to severe issues.
 
Particularly when you start swapping parts out and have leftover stuff just sitting there


 
LOL. That's true I guess for some. I built a lap steel with leftover parts and wood to small for a guitar. Oh no! I'm a guitar parts hoarder!
After seeing the drum lights maybe I'll make an end table for the lounge area of my shop from an old Ash Tele body.
 
 
 
 
 
 
2014/05/13 09:07:49
michaelhanson

 
I believe this one used to be black. 
2014/05/13 14:13:25
craigb

 
(As shown before.)
This is Walter Trout's '59 (with me fixing a broken D string).  It used to be Artic White!
2014/05/13 15:23:49
batsbrew
my custom USACG strat build





angled heel with fallway cutout at back of horn

 
USACG body and neck stats:
body: lightweight Alder 2-piece, with a contoured heel, side jack, tummy route,
fall-away cut out on the back side of the bottom bout for upper fret access.
 
neck: hardrock maple neck, with a pau ferro fingerboard. 6150 frets, 1-5/8" nut width. small fender-style headstock.
--Gibson scale length neck, 22 frets, fingerboard radius, of 12". the shape of the neck is a thin "C" shape, with a .78" neck
thickness at the 1st fret, up to .85 at the 13th, mother of pearl dot inlays.
vintage truss with access at face of headstock.
 
headstock: tiltback design, 13 degrees, graphtech nut.
 
Bridge:Hipshot 6 String US Contour Tremolo Chrome with stainless tone bar.
 
pickups: humbucker-single-single, Bill Lawrence L-500L and (2) L-280s (n & m)
Q filter for master tone, and a master volume. (500k pots)
 
Scratchplate: done by Warmoth, it's a slightly custom shape, with the 1st volume knob hole removed, and my luthier cut the hole
for the Lawrence pickup (not a standard size) to match.
 
Paint: done by USACG custom guitars, it's all NITRO, and very very thin. I instructed them to make it as thin as possible, wear is not a concern to me.
 
2014/05/13 15:58:00
spacealf
Make a clock out of it.

Retire it and make a clock out of it.
 
 
2014/05/13 16:11:32
craigb
spacealf
Make a clock out of it.

Retire it and make a clock out of it.



Do you think it's time for that? 
2014/05/13 17:30:01
batsbrew
what i learned in my research on building a project guitar

yeah, i know, it's blahblahblahblah..
but i thought i'd share for anyone who is interested in building project guitars..
I THINK A LOT OF TIMES...
it's really the way a guitar FEELS to the player, more than the sound that everyone else is hearing.
and that is a very tangible thing, and is personal, and can make a HUGE difference to players who are very sensitive and affected by the physical side of sonics.
 

in my years of playing, and building the odd project here and there, the one thing that i consistently saw, was that if it sounded spanky without being plugged in, it'd sound spanky plugged in.
and if it sounded dead sitting in the shop, and if i plugged it in, dead.
(now, this is not to be confused with lots of gain, and radical tone shaping, and all that...
just the basic pure sound of the guitar amplified, versus acoustically playing it)
and i've switched out bridges and electronics, even nuts, and they all did do a little something....
but i think the magic comes from the 'tone' of the neck, and the 'tone' of the body.
and then the mojo is, marrying the two together.

when i researched and built my USACG project strat my luthier and i, had at our disposal, 5 strats in house, for sell or repairs or work....

3 fender strats of various vintage and country of origin (korean, MIM, MIJ)....
and 2 brand new american made strats.
we had my luthier's WARMOTH strat and neck....
 
plus, we had a few other strat wannabes-- Godin, Ibanez, the odd project guitar..
 
we did, at various points in the discovery process, take apart most of them.
one thing i noticed, was that certain 'necks' would not pass the 'tap test'.
what the tap test was, was simply hanging the neck (with all hardware off of it) from a hanger thru a machine head hole, and 'tapping' on the wood with the finger.
 
you could rap the back of the neck with your knuckle, and you could hear a distinct 'ring' or 'tone' in the wood.
every single neck was different.
some were solid maple, some maple with maple caps, some with rosewood caps....
all different.
as you would expect.
but some were dead sounding, and some were very lively.
needless to say, the 'lively' sounding necks, sounded the best on the bodies.
the bodies, a similar thing.

when i asked for my strat body, i decided on alder, and i specifically asked for the 'lightest 2-piece alder body' they had...
why 2 piece?

i don't know, i guess cuz the nicest body i found in the test, was a lightweight, 2 piece body that had a nitro finish on it, so that's what i patterned after.
 
i also had read a lot of articles on pros that had vintage strats, and that seemed to be a common thread.
when i got my alder body, while it was still raw, it had that 'tap tone'.
 
now when we experimented with various pieces at hand, you could hear the difference in the overall sound of the guitar (plugged in or not) when switching the necks out with different bodies.
also, the necks that had vintage style truss rods (one of the reasons i went with the USACG necks over the warmoth necks) was another big 'aha'.
it seems that, the way the wood is cut, and how the truss rod was installed, made the biggest difference of all, over wood types and fingerboard selection...
i took a maple/rosewood warmoth neck, with a gibson conversion scale, the double expanding truss rod thingy (which really makes the neck heavier and somewhat dead sounding) and a/b'd it against my freshly minted USACG neck with rock maple neck and pau ferro fretboard, basically the same neck as the usacg, except for the truss rod and the fret wood.
 
no contest.
my neck had the 'tap tone', and the warmoth did not.
plain and simple.....
 
i was absolutely convinced.
another difference BETWEEN my neck and the warmoth i compared to, in particular was the construction of the 'tiltback' headstock.
the usacg uses a volute construction...
the warmoth used scarf joint.
that seems to have some bearing as well.
moral of the story....
it's gotta be the wood.
2014/05/13 17:36:51
michaelhanson
in my years of playing, and building the odd project here and there, the one thing that i consistently saw, was that if it sounded spanky without being plugged in, it'd sound spanky plugged in.
and if it sounded dead sitting in the shop, and if i plugged it in, dead.
(now, this is not to be confused with lots of gain, and radical tone shaping, and all that...
just the basic pure sound of the guitar amplified, versus acoustically playing it)
and i've switched out bridges and electronics, even nuts, and they all did do a little something....
but i think the magic comes from the 'tone' of the neck, and the 'tone' of the body.
and then the mojo is, marrying the two together.

 
When I go into Guitar Center and try out the electric guitars, I will often play through a wall of them first without even plugging them in.  The GC guys always think that I am nuts.  "Why don't you plug into this Line 6 Spider, it has a killer metal selection".  I always tell them that I can find the guitar that I am going to like by listening to the unplugged tone and feel of the neck.  Its all down hill from there.
2014/05/13 19:13:27
craigb
MakeShift
The GC guys always think that I am nuts.  "Why don't you plug into this Line 6 Spider, it has a killer metal selection".  



Ok, that made me LMAO. 
2014/05/13 21:41:25
Randy P
Bats, I too have a USACG Strat. Ours are very similar, except I went with Seymour Duncan rail humbuckers, and an original Floyd Rose trem with a locking nut. I have the Gibson Les Paul radius neck also. Gawd I love this guitar. Great sustain plugged in or not. Considering another build, but can't really imagine getting something better......just different.

Randy
© 2026 APG vNext Commercial Version 5.1

Use My Existing Forum Account

Use My Social Media Account