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  • Landr automatic mastering (p.4)
2014/06/15 06:46:10
jps
Hi Bitflipper ,
Here is an attempt on mastering your song :-)
http://jpsmusic.com/limofin.wav
 
Its a 44.1 / 24
All the best
Jan
2014/06/15 10:36:16
bitflipper
Thanks for contributing to the discussion, Jan! I'm downloading your file now...
 
Steve, I suspect the problem is that they just haven't scaled up their server(s) yet for gobs of data going in and out. Buying hosting services is expensive, and it's unlikely theirs is a profit-making enterprise yet.
2014/06/15 11:33:31
bitflipper
Listened to the "slammed" version. Interesting, isn't it, that even though the waveform looks like "more" the actual sound is noticeably "less". Less definition, less body, less clarity.
 
Average RMS was -7 dB, fairly typical by contemporary standards. If you look at the waveform, specifically the last few seconds of it, the limitations of high compression levels becomes obvious; there is just no place left to go when you get to a crescendo.
 

 
2014/06/15 11:41:49
ltb
Just saw this, here's some 'auto mastering' in plugin form. This new technology should be the next best thing since Auto-tune.
http://www.tb-software.co.TBProAudio/products.html
2014/06/15 11:50:37
yorolpal
Landr...cleaner, tighter.
2014/06/15 12:01:17
bitflipper
Jan's version came out really nice. Comparable loudness to the Landr version, but slightly higher peak levels (-0.09 vs. -0.29 vs. -1.0 in my original master). Jan went for a more balanced EQ, slightly brighter than mine but not to the point of harshness. Dynamic range was reduced, but to my ear did not harm the song at all.
 
All in all, Jan's treatment was just brilliant. Metaphorically, that is, not spectrally. Here's a link to a 256 kb/s MP3 (to match the other versions) so you can give it a listen.
 
[NOTE: SoundCloud streams at 128 kb/s, but these files are all downloadable in their original resolution of 256 kb/s, and in the case of the unmastered version as a lossless FLAC]
 
2014/06/15 12:48:44
jps
bitflipper
Jan's version came out really nice. Comparable loudness to the Landr version, but slightly higher peak levels (-0.09 vs. -0.29 vs. -1.0 in my original master). Jan went for a more balanced EQ, slightly brighter than mine but not to the point of harshness. Dynamic range was reduced, but to my ear did not harm the song at all.
 
All in all, Jan's treatment was just brilliant. Metaphorically, that is, not spectrally. Here's a link to a 256 kb/s MP3 (to match the other versions) so you can give it a listen.
 
[NOTE: SoundCloud streams at 128 kb/s, but these files are all downloadable in their original resolution of 256 kb/s, and in the case of the unmastered version as a lossless FLAC]
 

 
Glad you liked it :-)
Here is what I used and did :
First Har-Bal for eq balancing http://www.har-bal.com/
 Import track to Sonar X3 .
Following plugs used :
Pusher to breath some new life to the track (just a tadd) http://www.thehouseofkush.com/#!ubk-pusher/cqir
Sheppie for widening and ambience (just a tadd) http://dallashodgson.info/articles/OpenAmbienceProject/  this is a great plug and it`s free :-)) 32 bit only .
Cosmos http://www.nomadfactory.com/products/cosmos/ for limiting and then some :-))
 
All the best
Jan 
 
 
 
 
2014/06/15 13:04:29
yorolpal
I need to listen to Jan's version at the studio. On my iPad it sounds a bit harsh and over limited...natch. Probably sounds fine on decent speakers. But then that's why we check our mixes on crap speakers...that's where they get listened to the most.
2014/06/15 13:16:33
bitflipper
Cosmos and Har-Bal  who'da guessed? Goes to show you don't necessarily need boutique plugins to get results.
2014/06/15 13:24:19
yorolpal
Cosmos is a true wonder. Killer diller.
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