2014/05/22 19:48:29
The Band19
Hello, I have BFD2, and have used it for a long time, but they (Fxpansion) are boning me on a re-auth issue after an OS upgrade. If I had to go to another package, which would you recommend and why?
 
Thank you.
2014/05/22 23:33:01
Sidroe
My choice is Superior Drummer from Toontrack. I have XLN Addictive Drums free with X3 and just today my wife bought the upgrade to Addictive Drums 2 for my birthday. I have BFD Eco but I don't really want to pay the 150 dollar upgrade charge to BFD 3. Eco seems to be too much of a CPU eater anyway. I have a sizeable library of kits for Superior and it fills the bill very nicely. There are a couple of others out there but these are my recommendations.
2014/05/22 23:38:56
Sidroe
BTW, I recommend Superior because of the deep editing features with the bleed controls, the included plugins, and the quality of the sound. Some people prefer to have a rawer sound like BFD or Addictive and tweak until the cows come home. I like the more polished CD or radio ready sounds in Superior. I recommend Addictive because it's very easy to assemble a kit very quickly. Although, you may have to tweak each kit piece for a while to get what you want.
Of course you know about BFD. I hate that they're doing that to you. Good Luck!
2014/05/23 02:00:32
Dream Logic Audio
I'll second Superior Drummer 2, especially with the Roots expansion packs...yum!
 
Kenn
2014/05/23 02:04:47
Glyn Barnes
The Band19
Hello, I have BFD2, and have used it for a long time, but they (Fxpansion) are boning me on a re-auth issue after an OS upgrade.



What happened? I recently had to request some extra authorisations for some Toontrack products after upgrading to Win 8.1, the reset my account within a few hours of me submitting a ticket. I would have hoped that FXPansion would be as responsive.
 
I think BFD3 is the best out there at the moment, much better than BFD2 but if you do want to break with FXPansion I would go with Superior drummer, I prefered Superior to BFD2.
 
I have not really spent much time with the Adictive Drums that came with X3 but somehow it did not grab me. I have Steven Slate 4, it sounds great if you want "mix ready" sounds but the interface is horrible.
2014/05/23 03:47:03
montezuma
Sidroe
BTW, I recommend Superior because of the deep editing features with the bleed controls, the included plugins, and the quality of the sound. Some people prefer to have a rawer sound like BFD or Addictive and tweak until the cows come home. I like the more polished CD or radio ready sounds in Superior.




So what's with the 'deep editing features, bleed controls and included plugins' if the kits already sound great and don't require tweaking until the cows come home?
2014/05/23 05:34:53
SvenArne
I'd recommend AD2 to anyone's more interested in "plug-and-play" drums than bonafide hardcore drum mixing!
 
Cause of the presets which are REALLY useful compared to the competition. EZD, even though it's marketed as being "EZ" always seems to require a good deal of tweaking to "sit" (I don't own EZD or EZD2 but have several EZXs running within Superior 2.0)
2014/05/23 06:47:07
twaddle
The Band19
Hello, I have BFD2, and have used it for a long time, but they (Fxpansion) are boning me on a re-auth issue after an OS upgrade. If I had to go to another package, which would you recommend and why?
 
Thank you.




 
What's the problem with the authorisation and what exactly do you mean, 'boning you'?
You can have 3 licences running at one time but after that you need to apply for a new licence when upgrading your machine. I have done this so many times I've lost count and never have there been any issues with re-authorising my licence and I think 4 days is the longest I've had to wait due to a bank holiday here in the UK.
 
Also, it's just occurred to me, what os are you upgrading to? If it's windows 8 you may find that could be an issue.
I'm not saying BFD2 wont run on windows 8 but I know it's not supported and BFD2 has essentially been dropped.
Are you on the BFD2 forum? If so what name do you go by?
 
I'm assuming though you have been through this process and written to support asking for a new licence explaining why you need one? I'm just really surprised as I've never heard of that happening in the 6 years I've been an fxpansion customer.
 
IMOH all the alternative suggestions are a step down from BFD2 with the exception perhaps of superior drummer
although I personally much prefer BFD2. I would strongly advise sticking with fxpansion and sorting your licence issues out and even upgrading to BFD3 because there is simply nothing better out there right now.
 
The upgrade from BFD2 to BFD3 is $149 and of course all your BFD2 kits and presets will load fine in BFD3.
I would at least try the BFD3 Demo
When you put the 10 kits that come with BFD2 and the 7 new kits superbly recorded by Platinum Samples then $149 is a pretty good deal.
 
Steve
2014/05/23 07:59:19
Sidroe
As far as the deep editing is concerned, the controls to do so are very placed in the mixer window to allow tweaking if you feel the need to. I don't know of any preset that exactly fit the bill right out of the gate. Also a trick in Superior for faster load times is the bleed mics you shut off will result in those samples not being loaded. That brings down the sample size when the kit loads for those of you who don't quite have enough RAM space to run the full kit. It also results in faster load times because you're loading less samples. I don't intend to say that any sampler or rompler sounds so good you never have to tweak. Ah, how much easier would that make it for us.
2014/05/23 09:36:03
Jason Gray
Melda productions Mdrummer it can be as simple or as in-depth as you could possible imagine its a monster, you have not seen anything like or will we gain, its a secret weapon, although it one of these where the demo is a stripped down mini free version and not even 5% of what the full version offers, so its a leap of faith, but no way can you be disappointed, as long as you take time to learn you will never ever think about another, it also has a rhythms generator and editor, it has 6gb of factory samples, its takes your own sample and it has drum synth technology, I don't know where to start in even scratching the surface, they have just realised a new version that has out done itself although no videos yet to justify the improvements , all updates are free. all other drum vst are mere babies toys by comparison, what more can I say, I am not ever looking back.
 
http://www.meldaproduction.com/plugins/product.php?id=MDrummer+Large
99 EUR  ± 135 USD Introductory price, should be  249 EUR  ± 341 USD
 
http://www.youtube.com/re..s?search_query=mdrummer
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